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re: Another Chubb and Fournette Debate???
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:07 pm to GermantownTiger
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:07 pm to GermantownTiger
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Now provide the ones that have Chubb ahead
These all look real legitimate.
That last link states "in no particular order".
I think it's way too early to even be talking about draft order anyway.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:11 pm to GermantownTiger
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Now provide the ones that have Chubb ahead
Found one and it only took a second. But, it actually has 2 guys ahead of Chubb and LF.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:23 pm to lsupride87
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However, it also isnt stupid to say you think LF will have a better career in total
However, based off logic, it would take a lot for Fournette to over take Chubb for a better career. If Chubb's freshman season was much better than Fournette, which it was, then Fournette is going to have a season or two where he puts up much better numbers just to catch up w/ Chubb.
However, I think S. Michel will be Fournette's best friend, as Michel is just as talented as both of them, so he will take a lot of carries away from Chubb, which will allow Fournette to catch up, stat wise.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:26 pm to FlatwoodsForester
He asked and I provided. More have LF in front of chub than vice versa
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:28 pm to rmnldr
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LSU fans never said Fournette was better in 2014. We say that Fournette has the potential and is very likely to be better in 2015.
I keep hearing that, that Chubb >>>> Fournette in 2014, but on potential Fournette is still >>>>> Chubb.
What has LSU done or Fournette, to show that Fournette will "very likely be better in 2015?" Yall still have no qb, teams will still load 8 or more in the box (we kept hearing that excuse a lot last year), but yet somehow Fournette will do better?
Chubb still has the great Oline (many consider it tops in the nation, I don't agree w/ that as I think Gurley and Chubb make them look better than what they actually are), and a qb guru coach in Richt, plus he will probably start every game this season. So how come Chubb won't likely be better in 2015? I just don't see how a rb who isn't even top 3 in the SEC will 'very likely be better' but the best RB in the SEC won't.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:31 pm to GermantownTiger
quote:Just like w/ Jamarcus Russell?
His talent? Not ONE NFL draft expert has Chubb over LF... Not one
Also, Chubb will get drafted higher than Fournette if both stay healthy and avoid a major injury, like ACL/MCL/etc-CL. I can put a ban bet on if you want a wager.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 4:46 pm to GermantownTiger
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I'm the homer? No see I use evidence to back up my statements:
Chubb is just as fast, has better shiftyness and doesn't lose much speed either, and just as good if not more powerful. Chubb's vision is excellent and is a workout warrior who is stronger than Fournette (based off high school stats but would love to see come recent college weight lifting numbers for either) and has great endurance.
Even if all things are equal b/w them, Chubb's naturally lower center of gravity will trump Fournette's thus providing a slight edge. Both will be great backs in college and taken in the draft, but to act like Chubb isn't in the same class as Fournette as a NFL draft prospect is retarded.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:38 pm to Hardy_Har
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Add 300 yds to Fornette at the end of 2015 since he's not in the East.
Fair is fair.
To be fair is that Chubb wasn't even the starter until like 6 games in. LT started every game from jump didn't he. That says alot about the type of back chubb is.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:09 pm to BoogerSykes
Look Chubb might be 1 and Fournette 1A or vise versa what we can agree on is they are both the best backs in the SEC, period! I threw out stats and take a look at the last category, total yards and td's. Can't get any closer then that! Love them both!
Chubb
Rushing
13G/219ATT/1594YRDS/7.1AVG/14TD
Receiving
13G/18REC/213YRDS/2TD
0 Return yards
Fournette
13G/187ATT/1049YRDS/5.5AVG/10TD
Receiving
13G/7REC/127YRDS/0TD
Kickoff Returns
24/625/1TD
Total Yards
Chubb
1807/16TD
Fournette
1801/11TD
Chubb
Rushing
13G/219ATT/1594YRDS/7.1AVG/14TD
Receiving
13G/18REC/213YRDS/2TD
0 Return yards
Fournette
13G/187ATT/1049YRDS/5.5AVG/10TD
Receiving
13G/7REC/127YRDS/0TD
Kickoff Returns
24/625/1TD
Total Yards
Chubb
1807/16TD
Fournette
1801/11TD
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:56 pm to DawgGONIT
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However, I think S. Michel will be Fournette's best friend, as Michel is just as talented as both of them, so he will take a lot of carries away from Chubb, which will allow Fournette to catch up, stat wise
We've got some pretty talented guys that will get some of LF's carries, as well.
With more on the way
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:59 pm to GermantownTiger
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by GermantownTiger
He asked and I provided. More have LF in front of chub than vice versa
And none are worth squat.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:14 am to DawgGONIT
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Yall still have no qb, teams will still load 8 or more in the box (we kept hearing that excuse a lot last year), but yet somehow Fournette will do better?
That's a lot of "if's".
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:18 am to DawgGONIT
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Just like w/ Jamarcus Russell?
Also, Chubb will get drafted higher than Fournette if both stay healthy and avoid a major injury, like ACL/MCL/etc-CL. I can put a ban bet on if you want a wager.
You may be a little too invested in this.
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Chubb is just as fast, has better shiftyness and doesn't lose much speed either, and just as good if not more powerful. Chubb's vision is excellent and is a workout warrior who is stronger than Fournette (based off high school stats but would love to see come recent college weight lifting numbers for either) and has great endurance.
Even if all things are equal b/w them, Chubb's naturally lower center of gravity will trump Fournette's thus providing a slight edge. Both will be great backs in college and taken in the draft, but to act like Chubb isn't in the same class as Fournette as a NFL draft prospect is retarded.
I'd challenge the idea that Chubb is as fast or shiftier, but we'll see that play out this season. Same on workout habits.
Chubb's vision is excellent, and he's a classic power back with incredible athleticism to boot.
I'd actually argue Chubb is a more prototypical NFL back than Fournette due to his stout build. It only helps him that he's also a freak athlete. There are still two more years for both of these guys. We'll see how it goes.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 12:19 am
Posted on 7/17/15 at 3:37 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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These people aren't aware of Chubb's weight room numbers or 100m time. They never bothered to look that up.
Fournette 100m- 10.68
Chubb 100m- 10.69
both huge guys with the same speed. will be an interesting couple years
Posted on 7/17/15 at 6:06 am to CBandits82
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How highly touted was Chubb out of high school?
He was a 5* I believe. Not as highly touted as Fournette. And I think Fournette had a great year last year and will have a better year this year. he will continue to get better and have a very good NFL career, too. They are both very good running backs.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 6:50 am to wadewilson
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Yall still have no qb, teams will still load 8 or more in the box (we kept hearing that excuse a lot last year), but yet somehow Fournette will do better?
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That's a lot of "if's".
Actually....I don't see any "ifs"
Posted on 7/17/15 at 7:34 am to geauxnavybeatbama
That 10.68 was from his junior year in High School. The team did not complete the season for 2014. Maybe one meet. Can't find Chubb's numbers from his junior year but it's looks like that 10.69 was an outlier for his senior year he ran mostly in the 10.9-11.0 range. They are both fast but LF has him there. LF was putting up 22's as a freshmen which is what Chubb was running as a senior.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 7:41 am to djsdawg
In your opinion. More than anything you can provide... NFL experts agree LF is better
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:01 am to GermantownTiger
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NFL experts agree LF is better
This is where you keep losing me. These aren't NFL experts you're providing as evidence. They're hack bloggers that create lists that are no more informative than anyone else's list on the rant.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:17 am to 5Alive
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That 10.68 was from his junior year in High School. The team did not complete the season for 2014. Maybe one meet. Can't find Chubb's numbers from his junior year but it's looks like that 10.69 was an outlier for his senior year he ran mostly in the 10.9-11.0 range. They are both fast but LF has him there. LF was putting up 22's as a freshmen which is what Chubb was running as a senior.
Chubb:
Progression by Season
100 Meter Dash
• 2014 Outdoor10.69
• 2013 Outdoor11.15
• 2012 Outdoor11.06
• 2011 Outdoor11.55
200 Meter Dash
• 2014 Outdoor21.83
• 2013 Outdoor22.85
• 2012 Outdoor23.40
High Jump
• 2012 Outdoor5-6
Long Jump
• 2013 Outdoor22-4
• 2012 Outdoor21-9
Shot Put
• 2014 Outdoor55-8
• 2012 Outdoor42-6.5
Fournette:
Progression by Season
100 Meter Dash
• 2013 Outdoor10.78 (Not sure why this is different LINK)
• 2011 Outdoor11.32
200 Meter Dash
• 2013 Outdoor21.72
• 2012 Outdoor22.21
• 2011 CC22.42
• 2011 Outdoor22.51
55 Meter Dash
• 2013 Indoor6.55
• 2012 Indoor6.85
• 2011 Indoor6.73
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 8:19 am
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