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re: And you wonder why players go play at Kentucky and for Cal?

Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:14 pm to
Granted, he'd almost certainly say no given his control with the Celtics but he'd be my first call and I'd make him tell me No whenever Cal leaves.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:17 pm to
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But Stevens is next level in-game.


Stevens is like, Top 3 in the NBA in-game adjustment, play calling out of timeouts, etc. He'd do nasty things at Kentucky.

However, he also wouldn't sign as many players as Calipari does. He'd keep signing great players, but what Calipari does is on a level that nobody has ever done before - especially not every single year.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:32 pm to
no doubt. I thought he would crash and burn in the NBA. I feel dumb.
Posted by gamecocks22
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:36 pm to
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No it won't. The man went to title games at Memphis and UMASS for crying out loud. UMASS!


Blatant cheating
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:36 pm to
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I thought he would crash and burn in the NBA. I feel dumb.


I thought he would be like Hoiberg has. Get run over by players, seem small, not be able to deal with NBA guys.

He's been the opposite. It's pretty incredible.

This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Blatant cheating



John Wooden is regarded as one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time yet he bought and paid for all of those UCLA teams. What's the difference?
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Are you really suggesting he can't coach? And here I thought you were a decent SEC basketball poster on this board.


Sorry I guess I am a shitty poster because I don't think he can coach worth a shite in game. 75% of these jokers are atrocious if you watch them during the game.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:40 pm to
Honestly I don't even judge coaches on in-game adjustments anymore. So few of them do it well, especially in college, and half the time I think they know they can't expect their players to implement it so it won't be worth it anyway.
Posted by John Gotti
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:41 pm to
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Nobody wonders why I'd like to frick Salma Hayek


Is it her boobs?
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:42 pm to
What else is there other than recruiting and motivating?
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:44 pm to
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What else is there other than recruiting and motivating?


Player development and teaching guys how to play the game, how to run your stuff, how to play with toughness and how to play as a unit is pretty important stuff.

For having a brand new team every year I think Calipari is very, very good at those things. His teams almost never play pick up ball and they always play hard, and generally play good defense (this year has been a struggle).

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Sorry I guess I am a shitty poster because I don't think he can coach worth a shite in game. 75% of these jokers are atrocious if you watch them during the game.




Is he the best in the game as an in game coach? Nope. But coaching doesn't begin and end with your in game adjustments. And he's not nearly as bad as portrayed. He's adjusted philosophies with teams on mulitple occasions.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:45 pm to
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I don't think anybody wonders that

Yep. Its pretty much assumed at this point.
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 12:49 pm to
OK OK he is the greatest ever, geeze.

Seriously though triple, I don't see how you can even judge him in the player development phase when he has so much better talent than everyone else.

And Belle, he may not be as bad as I think during the game. I definitely don't watch every UK game, so my opinion is from a small sample.

This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:10 pm to
And? He still had to coach them.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:12 pm to
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Seriously though triple, I don't see how you can even judge him in the player development phase when he has so much better talent than everyone else.


Yea - I don't really judge Cal on player development too much for the reason you noted. I do judge him on the way he is able to put together a team every year that plays as a unit and gets after it. That's clearly a skill, as not everybody is able to do that with elite players.
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:19 pm to
How do you know he is worth a shite at it until someone else has a team like this? Look at the fab 5. How hard is it for a team to loo well coached when they are better than everyone else?

It could be tremendously easy and Cal is making it tough by being a constant whiner? Who knows, maybe the whining is the only way it will work and he is the GOAT? Hard to tell when he has all the burger boys.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:21 pm to
If you ever question Cal on player development. He got THIS into the NBA.



JORTS
Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:50 pm to
He has the best players money can buy and doesn't have that much to show for it. atleast Saban wins a lot of championships .
Posted by gamecocks22
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 6:00 pm to
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And? He still had to coach them.



Are you suggesting he would have coached them to the finals without cheating?
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