re: All of the reasons given for Bama being #4 are laughable

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Bama needs 3 of the P5 conferences to have 2-loss champions IMO.

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Well I guess we will just agree to disagree.

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I personally don't think Bama should be in the top 4. But now that they are, and other people feel the same way I do about it...I'm saying "melt" and "salt" in every thread.

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Yeah, that's why people don't like gumps.

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You're using a lame excuse as to why I'm "wrong."

Alabama would have to be in the top 2 of the Harris Interactive Poll (if it existed) for them to be in the top 4 of the BCS Standings. That clearly wouldn't be the case right now.

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I always thought the Harris gave way too much credit for points and/or margin of victory and took too little account of SoS. If the Harris today the top-3 would likely be a mix of Clemson, Baylor, and TCU. Possible both Bama and LSU wouldn't be in top-5 of the Harris of old, much less top-2.

You might be able to watch it on geauxzone

I don't think you need an account or anything but could be wrong

don't sweat it Reb. We gonna handle up on that problem Saturday

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Actually Bama does control its own destiny to make playoffs. If we lose we are out. We have to keep winning. Regardless of what anyone does we control our success if we keep winning.

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No, Alabama does not control it's own destiny. Even if Alabama wins out, a 1-loss Florida SEC Champion would certainly be in the playoff regardless of what any OOC teams do, or a 2-loss Ole Miss SEC Champion would get one of the slots over Bama with some OCC help.

In that scenario, a 2-loss SEC Champion Ole Miss would have wins against Bama,State, and TAMU on the road, LSU at home, and a redemption win over Florida which would almost completely negate the earlier loss to them. Our only "bad loss" would have been to a Memphis team ranked in the top 10, with a Hiesman Finalist QB on the road. Either way, Bama cannot make the playoff this season without other SEC teams losing even if they win out.

In the case of an 11-2, 2-Loss SEC Champion Ole Miss, I still don't think we get in the playoff without some help OOC, but we certainly would get the nod over any other SEC team. We would need two of Clemson, Notre Dame, and Stanford to lose a game. We would also need to pray the committee doesn't choose Memphis.

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What happened?

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LSU spotted them a TD from the 13.

The Committee doesnt go by the Polls Sir Dumio.

The Florida comparison. We creamed UGA far worse and they still had Chubb. Florida didnt control (game control) the Tenn. win and was lucky, Bama controled the game for 50 minutes. Florida beat a bad UK team 14-9, Florida beat East Carolina by 7 points.

All the metrics are taken into account, including game control.

Baylor have played no one, without their "Game Control" they would not be a top 10 school at this moment.

Stanford has not played a defense in the top 45 save for the 18th ranked defense of Northwestern, they were drubbed by Northwestern 16-6. No one besides Stanford is in the top 45 in Defense in the PAC 12, they are all God awful on defense.


Notre Dame lost to Clemson, they also barLey beat a bad Virgina team by 7 on a last ditch effort (went for 2 WHICH MADE IT A 7 POINT GAME) while down 1 late and had to beat Temple late.

Mich. St. beat an Oregon team that isnt seen as much now. They didnt control the Michigan game at all and were lucky to win. They beat Purdue 24-21, beat Rutgers by 7 and didn't look great vs. Western Mich. to open the season.

TCU beat Minnesota 23-17, the beat Texas Tech 55-52 and they beat Kansas State 52-45. TCU has the 60th ranked defense, and they haven't played Baylor, Okie St. or Oklahoma yet.

Iowa realy hasnt played a great schedule but they have played a good schedule, they were held to 70 yards passing and 144 yards rusing vs. Wisc. but won 10-6, they beat Pitt. by 3 and Northwestern. But their over all schedule doesnt have Michigan, Ohio St or Mich. St.

The committee looks at Game Control, injuries, road wins over ranked teams, margin of victory, etc. etc

So does UGA tank if Chubb doesn't go down ? Bama beat them with Chubb, that is considered. Wisconsin's running back got injured, Bama suffed him, but does Wisc. lose to Iowa with him, they outplayed them anyway.

Bama's defense can stuff anyone, we are sacking the QB this year, like 27 sacks.

You guys see what yu want to see, the Committee is looking at everything.


Vegas pretty much tells the facts...No one would be favored over Bama except Ohio St with their QB that just got suspended.

TALK TO THE HAND...