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re: Alabama falls to #49 in ranking of all 50 States. Drops 3 spots from #46 in 2018.

Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:02 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:02 am to
Anytime a magazine comes out with a ranking like this, the inverse is actually true.

But I'm totally happy with them pretending Alabama is terrible. We finally got our state government under some semblance of control. I don't want liberals moving here and messing it up.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50577 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:04 am to
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The democrats used to be a coalition of conservatives and liberals. The conservatives formed the party's backbone in the south for nearly a century. When the dems shifted to the left, first with FDR and Truman economically, then on Civil Rights, the "solid south" fell apart. The CRA of 1964 was pretty much the final straw.


All of this is wrong.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50577 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:05 am to
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will stand behind the idea that those places suck because of what you see from the media


Huh? We can all watch what's happening in those places live in full HD color. The morons are videoing it themselves and showing us what they're doing.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6395 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:17 am to
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All of this is wrong.


And you're an idiot.

There should be some kind of rule for simply saying something is wrong without going into why.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50577 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:30 am to
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There should be some kind of rule for simply saying something is wrong without going into why.


You can't back up any of your statements with any factual evidence. It's all wrong.

What should be required is for you to present some level of evidence before making such baseless claims, but you can't which is why you are deflecting now.

ETA: You are free to review my posting history if you want. I have destroyed everyone I've had this discussion with. Bow out now and admit you made up the garbage you spewed, or continue at your own peril. History is on my side in this discussion.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 11:32 am
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8602 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:41 am to
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All of this is wrong.


Care to explain why?

It's the generally accepted view, so I honestly have no idea what you think is wrong about it. I'm genuinely curious, so enlighten me, please.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6395 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:27 pm to
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You can't back up any of your statements with any factual evidence. It's all wrong.


OK let's go into detail.

First,yeah, for the longest time the Democratic party was the more right wing, populist party of the two majors, holding views diametrically opposed to the mercantilist whigs or the industrialist Republicans. Anti-tariff, pro-slavery, pro-segregation etc.

The shift to the left came in two waves, first with Wilson, then with FDR and his New Deal coalition. The New Deal coalition was unique in that the suggestion of more government intervention was almost universally agreed upon by several factions with differing social views, and had the benefit of pulling black voters away from the Republican party, which the weight of their vote had been directed toward since Reconstruction. The factions agreed upon little else.

Then the push for civil rights happened.

In the 60s, the Republicans learned of these cracks in the so called "solid south" during the election of '64, when Goldwater did the unthinkable and won several states for the Republicans in the south with a campaign almost exclusively against the CRA. The party at large took notice of this, pruned the liberal Rs from their ranks and birthed the "southern strategy."

As for the Democrats, well, the defections in their ranks speak for themselves, Thurmond probably being the most notable example, the "Dixiecrats" being another.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10640 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:59 pm to
What a bunch of arbitrary subjective crap. And this part

quote:

Natural Environment

Measuring the quality of states' natural amenities

#1
Rhode Island
#2
South Dakota
#3
Minnesota


I can think of a lot of states that have better natural amenities than those three.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50577 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Bigbens42


Like I thought. Can't back up your claims with any facts whatsoever. Pathetic.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3196 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:11 pm to
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9 out of the bottom 10 are red states! Lol



Ok??? Let's take Louisiana for example. New Orleans, Baton Rouge, and Shreveport (where almost all the bad statistics come from) are, and have been, Democrat forever. Louisiana has had a Democrat Governor 50%+ over the past 50 years or so.

So....... let's not make the extremely ignorant statement that problems in this state are because of republican issues.

Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6395 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Like I thought. Can't back up your claims with any facts whatsoever. Pathetic


One of those dumbasses that will claim victory without bothering to engage.

I issued several assertions, challenge them if you will. Otherwise frick off.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16178 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Alabama falls to #49 in ranking of all 50 States. Drops 3 spots from #46 in 2018


Awesome news! Keeps all the stupid frickers out of my state. We don't like their kind around here.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50577 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:52 pm to
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One of those dumbasses that will claim victory without bothering to engage.

I issued several assertions, challenge them if you will. Otherwise frick off.


You claimed the Civil Rights Act, which only passed because of Republicans over the universal opposition of southern Democrats (including an impassioned filibuster led by liberal icon Robert Byrd), pushed southerners to Republicans because...racism? It's so stupid that it doesn't require any challenge. It's clearly, historically, false. Anyone claiming otherwise should be immediately discounted.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Where I live in Alabama has a much better quality of life than Georgia.


Yes but Atlanta alone is better than any city in Alabama and it’s not even close.
Posted by tbonebrah
Member since Jul 2009
2290 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 3:02 pm to
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Yes but Atlanta alone is better than any city in Alabama and it’s not even close.




One of the of the worst mayors in the country and the national guard protecting its residents from......its residents.


People in Huntsville aren't jealous
Posted by MizBob
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2012
1149 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 3:07 pm to
I would move to Alabama over most states. Except I do not plan on leaving Southern Missouri any time soon.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 3:32 pm to
#50 Louisiana.




fricking losers










Posted by BVD
Go vols screw y'alls
Member since Oct 2017
746 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 3:45 pm to
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#50 Louisiana.




fricking losers


At least they will always have 2019
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3042 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:08 pm to
They must have left out “weather” as a factor. I live in Arizona and have transplant neighbors from Oregon, Washington, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, New York, New Jersey and Canada. Seems most people think it’s a pretty good place to live.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6395 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:18 pm to
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You claimed the Civil Rights Act, which only passed because of Republicans over the universal opposition of southern Democrats (including an impassioned filibuster led by liberal icon Robert Byrd), pushed southerners to Republicans because...racism? It's so stupid that it doesn't require any challenge. It's clearly, historically, false. Anyone claiming otherwise should be immediately discounted


It was a culmination of several factors, but the CRA was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was an effective wedge and very much the basis of the GOP's southern strategy that followed the CRA's passage.

Republicans can't claim sole responsibility. Yes, southern democrats opposed the CRA, but the law was introduced and pushed through via democratic control in both legislative bodies, and signed by a democratic president. And yes, a larger percentage of republicans voted for the bills. So what did the southern wing of the democratic party, the Dixiecrats, do when they were overruled? The voters effectively switched loyalty to the party that chose to cater to them via the southern strategy. Some legislators, like Byrd, reformed. Most, like Thurmond, switched parties entirely. This is why the south has been solidly republican since then.
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 4:20 pm
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