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re: Alabama 2014 - one of the least talented on paper in the Saban era?

Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:33 pm to
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this group was heralded by Bama fans as the best group of WRs on one team in college football this past year. they definitely underperformed with a 5th year senior QB.
Just about every WR we have on the roster right now would start over Maze, Hanks, and anyone else we had opposite of Julio.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:34 pm to
I think our DL will be better next year than it was this year.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:35 pm to
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I think our DL will be better next year than it was this year.




Definitely. I wanna see competition at Nose. I don't want Ivory/Lake just getting the PT because they have experience.
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:35 pm to
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Won 2 championships with 1st year starters. Auburn & FSU both had 1st year starters. ND did the year before. Auburn did against Oregon.



FSU had a top 5 recruit in a weak conference and Newton was an uber talented transfer that had experience playing in the SEC

I'm not saying it can't happen--just that its more likely not to
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:35 pm to
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Cooper has had better freshman and sophomore seasons than Julio


if a team gives up 5 draft picks for Cooper in a couple years I will stand behind Cooper.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:36 pm to
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if a team gives up 5 draft picks for Cooper in a couple years I will stand behind Cooper.



That's not really fair since Atlanta was desperate.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:38 pm to
Julio brought fear to fans of other teams. Cooper doesn't.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:39 pm to
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if a team gives up 5 draft picks for Cooper in a couple years I will stand behind Cooper.



That is different though. Julio has the much higher ceiling of the 2, but production in college wise goes to Cooper.

Julio is an out of this world athlete. Cooper has top end speed, good hands, and is a tremendous route runner.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:40 pm to
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Bama, more than likely, will not win a natty next year.

Question marks at QB, along the OL, and no true NT or lockdown CBs will lead to a couple of losses IMO.

Are you a closet Bama fan?
You pretty much summarized the biggest concerns.
UA will also have a shakeup in special teams; they will be starting an unproven placekicker and another punter.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:40 pm to
Cooper and Julio aren't even in the same ball park. There is literally no comparison. Guys like Julio are special.. freak athletes.. guys like Cooper not so much. Cooper was probably like the 5th or 6th best WR in the SEC this season.
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Cooper was probably like the 5th best WR in the SEC this season.


He dealt with a turf toe all year. He was extremely good at the end of the season. We also spread the ball around a lot, so his numbers weren't all that outstanding.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Cooper and Julio aren't even in the same ball park. There is literally no comparison. Guys like Julio are special.. freak athletes.. guys like Cooper not so much. Cooper was probably like the 5th best WR in the SEC this season.



Yeah, Julio is a better freak athlete, Coop is no slouch.

Coop has speed, he's made plenty of people miss to get Yards after the catch, and he's one of the best, if not the best, route runners in CFB. Julio didn't run great routes coming out of Bama, Coop did as a Freshman.


Cooper/Julio is like the Eddie/T-Rich comparison. T-Rich is the better athlete, Eddie plays/knows the position better.
Posted by Coach Bobby Williams
Thomas Drew Practice Fields
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:43 pm to
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I think our DL will be better next year than it was this year.

Tim Williams, Jonathan Allen , A'Shawn Robinson with Jarran Reed and Hand coming in, the DL future looks pretty good imho.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:44 pm to
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Julio brought fear to fans of other teams. Cooper doesn't.



Really? Because you'd think the performances he's had against Auburn and all of his big time plays would worry some people.


Coop made like four of your defenders look like fools on one play in 2012. He had a 99 yard TD against you this past IB. Oh, he caught the game winner in the SECCG against Georgia. Two TDs against an unbeaten Notre Dame on CFB's biggest stage...
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Cooper/Julio is like the Coffee/Lacy comparison.


Fify
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:47 pm to
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Really? Because you'd think the performances he's had against Auburn and all of his big time plays would worry some people.


Coop made like four of your defenders look like fools on one play in 2012. He had a 99 yard TD against you this past IB. Oh, he caught the game winner in the SECCG against Georgia. Two TDs against an unbeaten Notre Dame on CFB's biggest stage...



Julio all day...every day.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:47 pm to
If we're doing this at least make it entertaining.
Posted by Coach Bobby Williams
Thomas Drew Practice Fields
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:47 pm to
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UA will also have a shakeup in special teams, they will starting an unproven placekicker and another punter.

Punter yes but at placekicker Adam Griffith>>>>>>Cade Foster
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:48 pm to
I'm not taking a side in this argument, but Julio Jones did have some success versus LSU's secondary in 2009 and 2010. He beat Patrick Peterson on Alabama's last score versus LSU in 2010.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35929 posts
Posted on 1/19/14 at 1:58 pm to
They lose a QB that played 40 games for them and they think they won't take a step back
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