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re: Alabama - Offensive Holding
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:09 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:09 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
back pocket, meet cash.
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Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:26 pm to Colonel Flagg
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As someone mentioned they should have at least gotten a couple of calls to go against them when it wasn't holding.
Bama got called for holding several times but they were all declined.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:27 pm to Colonel Flagg
Double post.
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:54 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
THis is how
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:55 pm to crimsonsaint
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Bama got called for holding several times but they were all declined.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:57 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
Alabama boosters and their willingness to spend it on the refs.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:00 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
If the offensive line has not held in 10 games they are not doing their jobs correctly...sometimes, when a player gets beat by the defense, you have to hold to protect your QB.
Hearing this makes me want to question the officiating in last year's LSU vs Alabama game. I need to go back and re-watch it and look to see if I notice any questionable calls in favor of Alabama.
A few bad calls could be the difference in the game.
Hearing this makes me want to question the officiating in last year's LSU vs Alabama game. I need to go back and re-watch it and look to see if I notice any questionable calls in favor of Alabama.
A few bad calls could be the difference in the game.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:00 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
Seriously, someone who has the time needs to watch film of every offensive play of Alabama's for that time span, find every instance of holding because I'm pretty sure there are plenty, and submit them to the SEC office. Would be pretty hard to ignore as a collection of missed calls over that time span.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:02 pm to GeauxWarrior12
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I promise I can go back and watch those 10 and a half games and find obvious not questionable holding calls.
I vividly remember a blatant one in the SECCG. One of Alabama's lineman was very obviously holding on a swing pass type of play. It was so bad that the UF player's jersey stretched in his hands, then he quickly raised them and looked towards the officials with his hands in the air.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:04 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
LSU recent history, holding penalties called on opponents' offense, SEC games:
2009
Arkansas: 2
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 0
Auburn: 0
Florida: 0
Georgia: 1
Mississippi State: 1 (declined)
Vanderbilt: 0
2009 season total, in 8 SEC games: 4 (1 declined)
2008
Arkansas: 1
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 1
Georgia: 0
South Carolina: 1
Florida: 0
Mississippi State: 1
Auburn: 0
2008 season total, in 8 SEC games: 4
2007
Tennessee: 0
Arkansas: 2
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 1
Auburn: 1
Kentucky: 1 (offset by defensive penalty on LSU)
Florida: 0
South Carolina: 0
Mississippi State: 1
2007 season total, in 9 SEC games: 6 (1 offset by defensive penalty on LSU)
So, that's it. 14 holding penalties called on opposing SEC offenses in three years covering 25 games, 2 of which were not enforced due to being declined or offset by penalties against LSU.
Breakdown by teams:
In 3 games
Arkansas: 5
Mississippi State: 3 (1 declined)
Alabama: 2
Auburn: 1
Florida: 0
Ole Miss: 0
In 2 games
Georgia: 1
South Carolina: 1
In 1 game
Kentucky: 1
Tennessee: 0
Vanderbilt: 0
So, more than half (8 of 14) of the holding penalties called on opposing offenses in the last three years were called on Arkansas and Mississippi State. That leaves 6 holding calls on other opponents in 19 games over three years.
2009
Arkansas: 2
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 0
Auburn: 0
Florida: 0
Georgia: 1
Mississippi State: 1 (declined)
Vanderbilt: 0
2009 season total, in 8 SEC games: 4 (1 declined)
2008
Arkansas: 1
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 1
Georgia: 0
South Carolina: 1
Florida: 0
Mississippi State: 1
Auburn: 0
2008 season total, in 8 SEC games: 4
2007
Tennessee: 0
Arkansas: 2
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 1
Auburn: 1
Kentucky: 1 (offset by defensive penalty on LSU)
Florida: 0
South Carolina: 0
Mississippi State: 1
2007 season total, in 9 SEC games: 6 (1 offset by defensive penalty on LSU)
So, that's it. 14 holding penalties called on opposing SEC offenses in three years covering 25 games, 2 of which were not enforced due to being declined or offset by penalties against LSU.
Breakdown by teams:
In 3 games
Arkansas: 5
Mississippi State: 3 (1 declined)
Alabama: 2
Auburn: 1
Florida: 0
Ole Miss: 0
In 2 games
Georgia: 1
South Carolina: 1
In 1 game
Kentucky: 1
Tennessee: 0
Vanderbilt: 0
So, more than half (8 of 14) of the holding penalties called on opposing offenses in the last three years were called on Arkansas and Mississippi State. That leaves 6 holding calls on other opponents in 19 games over three years.
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:07 pm to More beer please
I wonder if the last holding call to "stick" against the Gumps was by an SEC crew.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:08 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Alabama - Offensive Holding
LSU recent history, holding penalties called on opponents' offense, SEC games:
Nice job!
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:09 pm to Nuts4LSU
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LSU recent history, holding penalties called on opponents' offense, SEC games:
2009
Arkansas: 2
Ole Miss: 0
Alabama: 0
Auburn: 0
Florida: 0
Georgia: 1
Mississippi State: 1 (declined)
Vanderbilt: 0
2009 season total, in 8 SEC games: 4 (1 declined)
No time at the moment, but will edit later to add prior years. It really is ridiculous.
Maybe it's because LSU's defensive line wasn't very good last year.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:13 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
They have had some called that the opposition declined, if that alleviates any Catcher In The Rye made me kill conspiracy esque concerns.
I googled the Nebraska 1995 thing, couldnt find anything.
My buddy is a lead researcher and writer for ESPN if everyone is really that interested I can find out...
I googled the Nebraska 1995 thing, couldnt find anything.
My buddy is a lead researcher and writer for ESPN if everyone is really that interested I can find out...
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:14 pm to TideSaint
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Maybe it's because LSU's defensive line wasn't very good last year
exactly what I thought, there has been no need to hold us over the past 2 years, especially last year.Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:14 pm to Nuts4LSU
This is an interesting topic. Personaly, I think SEC officials are afraid of Saban. This weekend will be interesting to see if the gumps get the same special treatment when Penn St. comes to play. - I'm thinking we might see a holding call on Bama this saturday.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:17 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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Tiger Stadium 11
Man, I'm not hating on LSU. It's just an O-Lineman usually holds when he gets beaten. If you're not beat, there's no reason to hold.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:18 pm to TideSaint
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Man, I'm not hating on LSU. It's just an O-Lineman usually holds when he gets beaten. If you're not beat, there's no reason to hold.
I agree completely, and I really think it changes this year too
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:19 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
How bout we worry about not running the HB dive 78 times this weekend instead of Bama's holding call stats?
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:19 pm to SOUTHFLATIGER
Alabama has always gotten away with murder. Bear Bryant was dirty bastard but he had the NCAA in his pocket becuase of big time money there check out this article on him and Jo Pa pay attention to his comments about the 75 sugar bowl
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 9/10/10 at 3:21 pm
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