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re: A.J. McCarron should win Heisman if...
Posted on 11/11/13 at 7:58 pm to Bama54
Posted on 11/11/13 at 7:58 pm to Bama54
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Based on this criteria the ONLY correct choice is AJ
Agreed. And one of the reasons I started the thread... everyone is under the impression that the award can only go to a player who had the best single season.
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 7:59 pm to BurtReynoldsStache
Mosley should win in a landslide.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 7:59 pm to BurtReynoldsStache
Unfortunately voters don't apparently know the criteria
Posted on 11/11/13 at 7:59 pm to NATidefan
Winston is feasting on weak competition, Manziel is throwing too many picks.
Against ranked opponents
McCarron 7 TD's 0 INT's
Winston 4 TD's 3 INT's
Manziel 9 TD's 4 INT's
Against ranked opponents
McCarron 7 TD's 0 INT's
Winston 4 TD's 3 INT's
Manziel 9 TD's 4 INT's
Posted on 11/11/13 at 7:59 pm to Bama54
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ased on this criteria the ONLY correct choice is AJ. Says NOTHING about the MOST outstanding player
You do realize that Jameis Winston has NEVER lost a college football game right?
Actually AJ's win % is on 95 or so while Winston's is 100.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:01 pm to Tigah32
Again read the criteria. A one year wonder doesn't fit the criteria
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:01 pm to Tigah32
Mett had a higher QB rating than AJ the other night and got beat by 3 touchdowns, why do you think that is?
Could it be that every other aspect of his team is better than almost everyone else's?
Manziel has to win games for his team; AJ has to hand the ball off, throw safe balls and not frick up. Anybody objective should be able to see and admit that.
Could it be that every other aspect of his team is better than almost everyone else's?
Manziel has to win games for his team; AJ has to hand the ball off, throw safe balls and not frick up. Anybody objective should be able to see and admit that.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:01 pm to nc14
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Bamacessed. Is that how it's done?
No. Because I didn't start the thread.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:01 pm to Tigah32
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You do realize that Jameis Winston has NEVER lost a college football game right?
Actually AJ's win % is on 95 or so while Winston's is 100.
Wow your AJ hate is strong. Winston has started 9 games against the ACC.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:01 pm to Tigah32
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Have you seen us play? After A&M we won't be top 40.
Still higher than Miami.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:02 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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That makes no sense at all.
Not saying it is fair or not, but it's a fact that QBs are judged by wins more than any other position because they are seen as the most important player on the team. Always been that way. It's one of the reasons there have been so many Heismans given to QBs when there are many times there other guys at other positions that are more talented and dominant at their positions.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:04 pm to BamaDude06
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He puts his team in better position to win than Manziel. How often does AJ heave a ball and just pray it is caught? Johnny does it multiple times a game. It allowed Bama to build it's 35-14 lead and kept Auburn in the game.
Put Manziel on Alabama and McCarron on aTM and how good would both be?
Then get back to me.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:05 pm to Tigah32
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If you seriously think McCarron can even sniff Winston's jock then your'e the biggest homer ever. Bama is without a doubt a better team, but there is no way in hell that McCarron is better than Winston. Or Manziel.
Why the frick would AJ want to sniff his jock? That's fricking disgusting and you're disgusting for bringing up....you're an abomination of a human being.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:06 pm to BayouBengals03
My opinion was Manziel should win until I actually went to the trouble to read the criteria, which the voters obviously don't do
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:06 pm to Libertyabides71
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Winston is feasting on weak competition, Manziel is throwing too many picks.
Against ranked opponents
McCarron 7 TD's 0 INT's
Winston 4 TD's 3 INT's
Manziel 9 TD's 4 INT's
There a very few QB's with as much overall control of their offense that AJ has. He is responsible for checking Bama in and out of plays based on his reads of the defense. In this era of college football many QBs don't have to read a defense pre snap. They line up, let the defense line up, and then look to the sideline to see what their coach wants them to do. AJ is college football's version of Peyton Manning. Of course, college Peyton Manning was denied a Heisman too, but heck he couldn
t beat Florida
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:08 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Mett had a higher QB rating than AJ the other night and got beat by 3 touchdowns, why do you think that is?
Could it be that every other aspect of his team is better than almost everyone else's?
Manziel has to win games for his team; AJ has to hand the ball off, throw safe balls and not frick up. Anybody objective should be able to see and admit that.
The one ESPN is using seems to be influenced by raw yardage. Because NCAA and NFL passer rating calculators are giving AJ's stats a higher ranking.
AJ NCAA 194.68 Mett NCAA 171.93
AJ NFL 137.2 Mett NFL 118.2
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:08 pm to BayouBengals03
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Put Manziel on Alabama and McCarron on aTM and how good would both be? Then get back to me.
Both teams would probably be worse.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:09 pm to BayouBengals03
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Put Manziel on Alabama and McCarron on aTM and how good would both be?
Then get back to me.
If Johnny plays at Bama like he does at A&M he wouldn't be on the field. Not because of lack of talent, but he make TERRIBLE decisions. Nick Saban would not put up with it. Just look at what he did to AJ, then the BACKUP QB, against Mississippi State in garbage time when he just threw the ball up for grabs.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:10 pm to Bama54
Winners epitomize great ability...AJ -8 Jamies -10
diligence AJ -10 Jamies -10
perseverance AJ -10 Jamies -6
Hard work AJ -10 Jamies-10
Give it to AJ
diligence AJ -10 Jamies -10
perseverance AJ -10 Jamies -6
Hard work AJ -10 Jamies-10
Give it to AJ
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:11 pm to Tigah32
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Not best player on the best team.
Even if it was best player on best team McCarron would probably not be in the top 3.
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