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Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:58 pm to tigerskin
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:58 pm to tigerskin
Well, yeah, it was different. But it was also before social media. A crazy guy with an axe to grind killed his professor in an office in the basement of a building on campus. Had Twitter existed, who knows what people would have been tweeting out during that time. I know sitting at home watching on local TV, I was expecting the absolute worst.
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:05 pm to wmr
I was trying to locate a report about a gunman on the University of Arkansas campus and I believe it was around the early 80s when I was there. The man was seen carrying a rifle or shotgun--seems like he was looking for someone in a sorority. I don't remember what actually happened or what the outcome was.
Of course there was the murder of a professor followed by suicide of the shooter in 2000.
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Edit--see you linked the 2000 incident.
Of course there was the murder of a professor followed by suicide of the shooter in 2000.
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Edit--see you linked the 2000 incident.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:17 pm to skirpnasty
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Ok so I'm not saying this isn't what happened, but what was he going to commit suicide with on the drill field if he didn't have a weapon?
Looks like they took him out of McCool?
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:18 pm to SemperAuburn
Would I be more cautious if I saw her walking around with an AR? Yea. Would I run away? No that'd just cause more panic especially if she's one of the good guys.
Who are the "good guys" now days?
Who are the "good guys" now days?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:42 pm to DingLeeBerry
I was in my Auditing class in mccool when it all happened. Within 10 minutes the cops showed up with their automatic rifles and shotguns escorting us out of the class. I saw the guy being handcuffed and carried outside. It was a wild scene but as soon as I saw all the cops and swat there I knew everything was under control
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:43 pm to fillmoregandt
Too bad you aren't in charge. Sounds like you have all the answers......
Posted on 8/27/15 at 2:54 pm to WhitewaterDawg
I feel incredibly bad for this kid. If this was just him having suicidal thoughts and authorities intervening... Now his name has been plastered everywhere as a campus shooter.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:05 pm to JustGetItRight
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Twitter, texting, & 24/7/365 media barrage.
Violence is lower than it's been since the 1950s. It was much, much worse. In the 1970s on through the early 1990s the murder rate was roughly TWICE what it is now.
You just didn't know it because you had to catch it on the 6:00 news or read about it the next day in the paper. Now it's blasted to you live everywhere you turn, giving the impression that things are worse now when in fact exact opposite is true.
While I'm sure all of that's true, people entering public places with guns and killing everyone in sight, is likely far more common today. When it happened in the seventies, it was a huge story. Now, it's like a weekly occurrence.
And no, I don't think guns are the problem.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:46 pm to tigerskin
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Putting out "active shooter" was wrong.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 3:53 pm to RT1941
Someone on campus called and said he was going to kill himself and others. What do you expect them to do? You have to prepare for the worst, those extra minutes that it would have taken to determine whether he had a gun or not could have been vital.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:14 pm to skirpnasty
Yeah, amazing two people dead in Virginia yesterday after multiple warning signs on the killer were ignored yet people are critical of this. Fact is the guy made threats and you have to take them seriously.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:42 pm to DingLeeBerry
I'm not being critical in the sense of security, I understand that precautions had to be taken.
But the guy wasn't actively shooting, he didn't even have a gun. But tweets about "active shooter" coupled with people tweeting that they heard gun fire when there was no gun present leads to hysteria.
But the guy wasn't actively shooting, he didn't even have a gun. But tweets about "active shooter" coupled with people tweeting that they heard gun fire when there was no gun present leads to hysteria.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:53 pm to weadjust
Were they leaving exercise class?
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:56 pm to redeye
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While I'm sure all of that's true, people entering public places with guns and killing everyone in sight, is likely far more common today. When it happened in the seventies, it was a huge story. Now, it's like a weekly occurrence.
It's just not true. Hell, there used to be laws on the books about duels as a formal way of solving disputes. The fact of the matter is bad stuff happens less. It's just that we see more of EVERYTHING. I bring this up every time someone thinks our country is worse than ever.
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The Bath School disaster was a series of violent attacks perpetrated by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927, in Bath Township, Michigan, that killed 38 elementary school children and six adults and injured at least 58 other people.[Note 1] Kehoe first killed his wife, firebombed his farm, and detonated a major explosion in the Bath Consolidated School, before committing suicide by detonating a final explosion in his truck. It is currently the deadliest mass murder to take place at a school in United States history.[1][2]
The problem is mental health. That's where our focus should be. It's a tough thing to pin down of why people do what they do or if they really mean harm, but we should be devoting all of our resources into evaluating mental health and getting people the help they need.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 4:59 pm to RT1941
We have an unhealthy situation in this country where guns are a right but access to health care (and subsequently mental health care) is not a right and often hard to obtain.
It's 10x easier to get your hands on a gun than to see a doctor. And our society stigmatizes anyone with mental health issues. Just yesterday a woman was on CNN taking about how we shouldn't stigmatize those with mental health issues and then 2 minutes later she said "we need to keep crazies from getting guns".
That's how our society "deals" with the problem. We just lump everyone with mental illness into one group of "crazies". And then sweep them under the rug and forget about them until the next one snaps and does something tragic.
Access to guns but no access to mental health care: mass shootings (where we are now)
No access to guns and no access to mental health care: less shootings but less freedom
Access to guns and access to mental health care: less shootings, same freedom
No access to guns but access to mental health care: far less shootings but less freedom
It's 10x easier to get your hands on a gun than to see a doctor. And our society stigmatizes anyone with mental health issues. Just yesterday a woman was on CNN taking about how we shouldn't stigmatize those with mental health issues and then 2 minutes later she said "we need to keep crazies from getting guns".
That's how our society "deals" with the problem. We just lump everyone with mental illness into one group of "crazies". And then sweep them under the rug and forget about them until the next one snaps and does something tragic.
Access to guns but no access to mental health care: mass shootings (where we are now)
No access to guns and no access to mental health care: less shootings but less freedom
Access to guns and access to mental health care: less shootings, same freedom
No access to guns but access to mental health care: far less shootings but less freedom
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:08 pm to Roll on Tigers
Is there still an active shooter on campus
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:13 pm to dbeck
quote:Nonsense. If you walk into an urgent care center with $500 in your pocket you would be out in about the same time as if you bought a pistol at Academy Sports with the same $500.
It's 10x easier to get your hands on a gun than to see a doctor
Posted on 8/27/15 at 5:18 pm to Diamondawg
I'm talking about a psychiatrist, not a regular doctor. And you can get a gun for much cheaper than $500.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 6:13 pm to Roll on Tigers
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. Keep them in your prayers
Stop saying this shite. If there was a God who gave a frick about people getting shot it wouldn't be happening, your prayer doesn't mean shite.
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