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Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:50 am to Teague
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According to you, some guy who was probably watching his first Bama game.
You REALLY don't know me. I was born in Alabama. Been following Bama football for years. Only root for A&M and Michigan ahead of y'all (and called the Bama rout of Michigan in '12 despite those loyalties). Plus, there are many ties between A&M and Bama. That was hardly my first rodeo with Bama football, come on now
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But, if you want to rely on well-thrown balls going off of Bama's WR's hands and into your DB's hands, then you have a poor gameplan.
Go back and watch that play again. That ball wasn't getting caught, I don't care how "well-thrown" it was. Howard Matthews (#31 on the Aggie defense) rocked the receiver coming across the middle. At the very least, it was going to be an incomplete pass. The INT was really just gravy on top of a solid play. shite, if Matthews gets there a step quicker, HE makes the pick.
Give our defense credit.
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Yes, no luck anywhere else, on either side.
That's the JFF factor. Without sounding like a fanboy, usually has at least one of those freak plays per game. Even happened against LSU, but didn't go for a score. Y'all knew what you were up against.
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one fumble, and two INT's. Like I said, shite happens, but that's a lot of turnovers compared to most games by Bama. They lost 12 fumbles and had 3 INT's all year.
We know. Give the Wrecking Crew credit.
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I think A&M deserved to win. I just don't think they could do it 2 out of 3 times.
I don't care about 2 out of 3 times bullshite. Only the 60 minutes allotted.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
The best defense against Manziel is 1 spy (an athletic LB or a 3rd safety), 1 blitzer (a LB or a Nickel), and your DL playing gap control. Both LSU and UF ran a variation of this and had success.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 10:58 am to TbirdSpur2010
I think the more we see zone, the more we'll run the ball. Kingsbury didn't realize this in the beginning of the year. McKinney knows how to call a good running game. But we'll see, JFF has supposedly been working on his reads this summer so he can better pick apart zone coverage.
TBird is correct. A&M forced turnovers, they were not unforced errors. Our D Coordinator should get more credit for calling a terrific game.
But I did go back and watch that last TD pass. Swope burned the DB(Sunseri?) bad off the line, so he literally tackled Swope's legs to bring him down. Didn't matter b/c Manziel threw to Kennedy for the score anyway.
TBird is correct. A&M forced turnovers, they were not unforced errors. Our D Coordinator should get more credit for calling a terrific game.
But I did go back and watch that last TD pass. Swope burned the DB(Sunseri?) bad off the line, so he literally tackled Swope's legs to bring him down. Didn't matter b/c Manziel threw to Kennedy for the score anyway.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:01 am to TbirdSpur2010
I don't even know what your point is. I've said you deserved to win. I'm not going to keep arguing semantics. I think Bama was the better team, but didn't have a great game and got beat by a good team. That's all. If you don't think that's the case, then I suppose you'll tell me that La Tech was only 2 points inferior to A&M. shite happens.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:05 am to TbirdSpur2010
Evans really got screwed in the 2nd half of that game. The worst call was the ridiculous offensive PI where it turned a big 1st down catch into A&M being pinned deep in their own territory. He had 2 Non PI calls when the Bama DB had his back completely turned from the ball and hit his hands before the ball arrived.
That doesn't even account for the pick that could have gone either way by Everett. It was particularly big because Bama scored 2 plays later and it would otherwise have been A&M ball with time running down and a 12 point lead. Then there was the huge momentum shift of Manziel putting the ball in the wrong hand on his 4th down run that would have likely ended up with an A&M score with little time left in the first half but instead became a Bama TD at the end of the half.
Bama got at least as many breaks as A&M in that game.
That doesn't even account for the pick that could have gone either way by Everett. It was particularly big because Bama scored 2 plays later and it would otherwise have been A&M ball with time running down and a 12 point lead. Then there was the huge momentum shift of Manziel putting the ball in the wrong hand on his 4th down run that would have likely ended up with an A&M score with little time left in the first half but instead became a Bama TD at the end of the half.
Bama got at least as many breaks as A&M in that game.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:06 am to TbirdSpur2010
Spur, you are living in a dreamworld. Here is a video of game highlights:
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Every A&M big play was earned, in my opinion, other than the freak fumble to himself wide open receiver play. You got one there. But offensively, A&M took it to us.
Defensively, you did NOT make these turnovers happen. Watch the tipped INT - had nothing to do with anything but dropping the pass into a defender. And the fumble was NOT stripped.
All this means nothing now - the better team won that day. You outplayed us. But go back and look at that highlight video, and two things will stick out - it's amazing how much A&M's offense lit us up, but defensively you got some gifts.
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Every A&M big play was earned, in my opinion, other than the freak fumble to himself wide open receiver play. You got one there. But offensively, A&M took it to us.
Defensively, you did NOT make these turnovers happen. Watch the tipped INT - had nothing to do with anything but dropping the pass into a defender. And the fumble was NOT stripped.
All this means nothing now - the better team won that day. You outplayed us. But go back and look at that highlight video, and two things will stick out - it's amazing how much A&M's offense lit us up, but defensively you got some gifts.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:06 am to Teague
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I don't even know what your point is.
To expose your inability to give credit where it's due. You say A&M deserved to win, then make excuse after excuse as to why y'all lost. Either they deserved to win or they didn't. Period.
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I think Bama was the better team, but didn't have a great game and got beat by a good team. That's all.
I can agree with this. The better team (on paper) doesn't always win. Which is why they play the game.
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I suppose you'll tell me that La Tech was only 2 points inferior to A&M. shite happens.
On that night, they were. LaTech has a damn good offense and went toe to toe with our O. I don't care what conference they came from, they were close to our equal that night in Shreveport.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:07 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
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I think the more we see zone, the more we'll run the ball.
Your running game seemed to diminish against LSU once we switched to zone. Granted you seemed to run JFF more after the 1st 2 drives than your RBs, but the running game was not improved. Maybe it's because:
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DL playing gap control
I think since your runs are more draws than dives, the LBs have a chance to make a play even with a 3 man front. Again, zone blitzing also helped penetration while the DL just waited for JFF.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:08 am to gatordmb89
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The best defense against Manziel is 1 spy (an athletic LB or a 3rd safety), 1 blitzer (a LB or a Nickel), and your DL playing gap control. Both LSU and UF ran a variation of this and had success.
Yup.
Although UF benefited a bit from A&M not trusting JFF to challenge the back end of y'all's D, y'all are definitely one of (if not THE) fastest defenses around. We didn't have a hope of beating y'all on that day (the element of surprise in JFF in the 1st half and our D stepping up were the main reasons it was close).
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:09 am to TbirdSpur2010
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To expose your inability to give credit where it's due. You say A&M deserved to win, then make excuse after excuse as to why y'all lost. Either they deserved to win or they didn't. Period.
If you are looking for a BJ, you're going to have to ask someone else. I said you deserved to win. But, there are ALWAYS reasons one team wins and the other loses. Naming those isn't making excuses.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:11 am to TbirdSpur2010
aTm benefited from UF not knowing anything about J. Hangover as well. It goes both ways.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:11 am to Crimson Legend
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Watch the tipped INT - had nothing to do with anything but dropping the pass into a defender.
Incorrect. Matthews blew up the receiver coming over the middle because the look A&M gave baited McCarron into throwing directly into coverage. That was not some fluke play--A&M dictated where that ball was to be thrown, then capitalized. I already said the actual INT itself was gravy. Sean Porter was in the right place at the right time. But my point about the pass was that it wasn't getting completed, period. Not the way Matthews closed on the ball because he knew where McCarron wanted to throw it.
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And the fumble was NOT stripped.
Yes it was.
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defensively you got some gifts.
Defensively we earned that W. Nothing gifted or fluky about it. And Snyder is coming for y'all again.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:13 am to roadGator
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aTm benefited from UF not knowing anything about J. Hangover
I said that already. Reread what I posted.
JFF being an unknown commodity was the reason we were in the game.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:14 am to Teague
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there are ALWAYS reasons one team wins and the other loses
Not disputing this.
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Naming those isn't making excuses.
That's not what you were doing. Get your head out of the sand, homie.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:14 am to TbirdSpur2010
You baited AJ into throwing a tight pass into BOTH the receiver's hands, and he happened to tip it. Remarkable foresight on your D.
Tell Snyder - whoever he is - to come ready. As the Champ said in Harlem Nights, "Don't take this arse-whipping personally."
Tell Snyder - whoever he is - to come ready. As the Champ said in Harlem Nights, "Don't take this arse-whipping personally."
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:15 am to madddoggydawg
IMO, a lot of JFF's accuracy, was due to Swope breaking off the routes and giving him a good target to get to. Without Swope, he's 13 of 20 for 142 and 1 TD.
That's not to take away from him though. He made clutch plays to extend drives, especially on third down and many of those on third and long. He's a talent to watch and looking forward to the game this year.
That's not to take away from him though. He made clutch plays to extend drives, especially on third down and many of those on third and long. He's a talent to watch and looking forward to the game this year.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:19 am to TbirdSpur2010
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That's not what you were doing.
OK, pal. If I had said that A&M suddenly developed a great defense and forced Alabama to drop the ball a lot more than usual, I suppose that would have been more accurate.
If you want to think you got Bama's best shot and came away with the win anyway, go for it.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:19 am to Crimson Legend
It's interesting your bring up game highlights because that INT sequence was like a clinic on how to fool a veteran QB into doing exactly what you want. CBS did a great job showing it was completely forced by baiting McCarron to throw to an empty area after his drop just when the safety took off for that spot.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:21 am to madddoggydawg
And yet he still hit Bell in the hands.
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