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re: A very possible scenario for those who don't like"mulligans"
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:29 am to BGSB
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:29 am to BGSB
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course your reasoning would be that winning your division and conference championship should have no bearing whether you should be in the National Championship game. Typical homer gump.
My opinion doesn't matter.
The BCS had no such requirement so it's that a opinion that should have you so bitter, not mine.
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Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:32 am to JuiceTerry
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thought LSU loved the BCS again.
They certainly did in 2003 and argued like hell that USC's AP championship was meaningless because the BCS was what college football agreed on.
Fast forward to 2011 and all that shite went right out the window.
21-0 will never end for these guys. They have a form of sports PTSD. Post traumatic Saban disorder.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:37 am to fierysnowman
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Any other BCS champs that didn't win conference?
Any other 2 loss BCS champs?
What's your point? There was no conf champ requirement in bcs anymore than there was a win-loss record requirement.
Their job was to put 2 best teams in title game. They did that.
The whole "osu was more deserving bc they won their conf" argument is dumb. Not all conferences are equal and Bama or LSU would've won that conference if they were in it. Can't punish them for being in same conf/division.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:38 am to bamasgot13
Why are we doing this again
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:44 am to northalabamacracker
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Meaningless.
But please continue to use this as a reason that Bama shouldn't have been there or what ever the indirect implication of this is supposed to be.
I haven't once said Bama didn't deserve to be there. I said that it pissed a lot of people off when they were put there. It doesn't help that the game ended up not being as good as the first one. People aren't going to want to see another SEC rematch. Don't you see it's even worse with four spots? If you're a Pac-12 fan aren't you pissed knowing there are four spots available and your team still got pushed out? What if this scenario was going on in another league? Would you be okay with a one loss SEC champ not getting in b/c the Committee really wanted Baylor and TCU?
If we had an 8 team playoff or even a 6 team play off (with a play-in or byes for 1 and 2) I'd say absolutely. But not with four. The field is too limited.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:44 am to northalabamacracker
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Bama didn't deserve to be there
As far as being 1 of the 2 best teams in the country, they deserved to be there. But your reading comprehension is horrible.
The whole system contradicted it's purpose. There is no wildcard in College Football. The wildcard is in place in the NFL because there is playoff system. Without a playoff, a wildcard team, such as Alabama was in 2011, is left in the hands of someone who could fairly, or unfairly influence who gets into the National Championship.
That is why we have a playoff in college football today. It has nothing to do with hindsight. You are saying since Alabama wins, the system worked, that is stupid. What if Alabama loses, and ends up with a 2 loss season, while a team like Okie State sits out Homer?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:45 am to cas4t
Because Bama won 21-0 and we win the argument. Jump back in, the waters fine.
It's all in fun Cas
It's all in fun Cas
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:45 am to northalabamacracker
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They certainly did in 2003 and argued like hell that USC's AP championship was meaningless because the BCS was what college football agreed on.
What did loving the BCS in 2003 have to do with anything? It wasn't due to the bcs that lsu got into the game. The issue was whether USC or Oklahoma would get into the game.
As for the AP championship, that is correct, it is meaningless. IF LSU won an AP championship during the BCS era, it would be meaningless as well, since EVERY single college team administration voted to allow the BCS championship game determine the actual National Champion. This AP deal was more of a protest by media members for USC not getting into the game over Oklahoma. It would also only happen for teams like USC and Alabama, and other teams that the media blows. Of course, there is no doubt in my mind that Alabama would have counted it as a NC should they have rec'd the vote.
When LSU beats Alabama, next Saturday, convincingly, it will make the last 6 regular season meetings between Saban and Miles even at 3 wins a piece, with Saban having an overall advantage of regular season wins 5-4.
Before you start arguing who will win...save it. Alabama isn't nearly as good as you think this year, and it's not even close. This will be fun....Miles wants this one, and he knows they have the team to not only beat bama, but potentially to beat them down.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:49 am to bamasgot13
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Can't punish BAMA for being in same conf/division
modified that for you a little bit. Any other SEC team would not have made it....even if the game would have gone in Bama's favor 9-6, and LSU had been the road team...would not have mattered...LSU would not have gone.
Also, how do you know you were better than Ok St.? Did you play them? Last year, you thought you were better than Ohio St. How did that work out for you?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:50 am to Tigerinthehollow
quote:Sorry you have no clout.
Any other SEC team would not have made it....even if the game would have gone in Bama's favor 9-6, and LSU had been the road team...would not have mattered...LSU would not have gone.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:52 am to bamasgot13
Yes Im telling you the committee would let them in. I listen to the heads all the time in what they weigh. You saw last year what happen to to the B12 cause they didnt crown a champion.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:52 am to northalabamacracker
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Because Bama won 21-0 and we win the argument. Jump back in, the waters fine.
It's all in fun Cas
Well I'm glad you said it's all in fun, because I didn't wanna believe you were that dense.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:54 am to BGSB
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far as being 1 of the 2 best teams in the country, they deserved to be there
End of discussion. Anything beyond this is just you rationalizing why Bama didn't deserve to be there.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 11:56 am to northalabamacracker
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End of discussion. Anything beyond this is just you rationalizing why Bama didn't deserve to be there
Simpleton
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:04 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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LSU argued like hell that USC's AP championship was meaningless because the BCS was what college football agreed on.
Let me help you. Focus on the bold and remember what this was all in reference.
LSU loved the BCS in 2003 as argument to invalidate USC's AP championship because that is what college football agreed on.
Fast forward to 2011 and the BCS is flawed.
And I yet to argue that Bama would win. I think either team can win. And you used this selective games for some sort of moral victory last year as well and now this year your just one more game behind.
LSU has been great under Miles but they seem to have a great team every 4-5 years and are a real threat to win the sec. Just can't do it year in year out.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:06 pm to northalabamacracker
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End of discussion. Anything beyond this is just you rationalizing why Bama didn't deserve to be there.
frick it. I'm just going to say it. This ENTIRE thread is moot b/c LSU is going to kick Bama's arse next week. Deal with it you bunch of smug cousin fricking hillbillies!
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:11 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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that for you a little bit. Any other SEC team would not have made it....even if the game would have gone in Bama's favor 9-6, and LSU had been the road team...would not have mattered...LSU would not have gone.
How do you know? Were you in that position. The evidence we have says you would have since it happened to another team. See how this works?
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:12 pm to BGSB
It's always fun exposing some of you for the moronic frauds and idiots that you are.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:14 pm to bamasgot13
Any other 2 loss BCS champs?
You are trying to go with the "ends justify the means" argument and failing. Who else deserved to be in that game against OSU before the game was played? Who else would not have been a 2 loss team going into that game (obviously other than OSU)? Kansas or Hawaii?
What's your point? There was no conf champ
True
Not true. Ends do not justify the means.
How about OSU had better wins that year than Bama did but just didn't have as powerful of a coach who whined his way into it? This would be a more truthful argument.
You are trying to go with the "ends justify the means" argument and failing. Who else deserved to be in that game against OSU before the game was played? Who else would not have been a 2 loss team going into that game (obviously other than OSU)? Kansas or Hawaii?
What's your point? There was no conf champ
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requirement in bcs anymore than there was a win-loss record requirement.
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Their job was to put 2 best teams in title game. They did that.
Not true. Ends do not justify the means.
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The whole "osu was more deserving bc they won their conf" argument is dumb. Not all conferences are equal and Bama or LSU would've won that conference if they were in it. Can't punish them for being in same conf/division.
How about OSU had better wins that year than Bama did but just didn't have as powerful of a coach who whined his way into it? This would be a more truthful argument.
Posted on 10/30/15 at 12:15 pm to BGSB
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Simpleton
I can continue to destroy your rationalization, minimization, and justification if you like. It's up to you.
The simple answer is the most honest.
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