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re: A couple of questions about the new Kyle Field...

Posted on 12/17/12 at 2:38 am to
Posted by TlGERBLOOD
South Orange, NJ
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 2:38 am to


You telling me you couldn't close that north endzone in, or add the middle tier to the south endzone?

If Florida really needed the extra seats, they could add them.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:03 am to
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What he was alluding to was the fact that the end zone expansion was not as big as it could have been, partly to avoid doing roadwork.

This is what a full expansion to the SEZ could have looked like...

that second picture made me take a dump.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:16 am to
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thats along ways away. mike's cage would have to be moved. part of the PMAC would be under the expansion


naw i doubt that. however, the NEZ "rumors" are probably BS. I've never seen or heard that stated anywhere but on here.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Speaking of Tiger Stadium, can anyone explain why the upper decks aren't symmetrical? Always thought it was an odd design, just curious if anyone knows the history of those expansions.


Because when Dinardo was here, buildings were built around the exterior of the North endzone. So when the East upperdeck was built, LSU couldn't build on top of these buildings, so the deck curved more toward the south endzone to add more suites and seats. When the west upperdeck was renovated, it was built to mirror the east. And everything was built with the idea of closing the south endzone with an upperdeck one day.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 9:41 am to
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however, the NEZ "rumors" are probably BS. I've never seen or heard that stated anywhere but on here.


IDK, my dad is a "no bullshite" kinda guy. His company provides TAF services at every athletic event and he golfs every weekend with some of the TAF brass. He said there are tentative, very early plans to expand the NEZ. Take it for what you will
Posted by Tolbert1906
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 10:53 am to
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You telling me you couldn't close that north endzone in, or add the middle tier to the south endzone?

If Florida really needed the extra seats, they could add them.
you could probably add a middle tier to the south endzone but that would look really weird, given that it would be higher than the rest of the stadium. there would be a big gap between it and the west side sky boxes as well. they might be able to do something with the north side. you could probably add another tier to make it the same height as the west sky boxes but that would also look weird, especially if there was a south end zone expansion with the aforementioned gap. that area in the photo where construction is taking place has since been filled in:
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 12:57 pm to
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He said there are tentative, very early plans to expand the NEZ.


Yup, TAF is already discussing numbers and design strategy. I predict LSU will start teasing the public with articles about a possible NEZ expansion around a year after the SEZ addition is complete.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 1:32 pm to
This picture of Tiger Stadium was posted earlier in the thread...



...now compare how close the south end of TS is to Stadium Drive in that pic to BHG...



...and tell me that UF couldn't build a similar structure to LSU's SEZ addition. The SEZ addition at LSU was designed the way it is to avoid having to do roadwork. It's also a free-standing, completely self-supporting building.



quote:

The South End Zone Addition will include approximately 60 suites, 3,000 club seats as well as about 1,500 general public seats above the current south end zone bowl.


At LSU, Tiger Den suites are standardized at 43 seats per. So a structure exactly like the SEZ addition would add 7080 seats to BHG's capacity.

That kind of addition would bring BHG's total capacity up to 95,000. More importantly it would add a great deal of premium seating.
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 1:47 pm to
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BHG Stadium looks very similar to Kyle Field IMO minus the tackle box sidelines.


They are both are old as hell, at least the bottom parts. The bottom decks at Kyle were built in the late '20s and BHG was originally built in 1930
Posted by Tolbert1906
Member since Aug 2009
2115 posts
Posted on 12/17/12 at 5:03 pm to
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...and tell me that UF couldn't build a similar structure to LSU's SEZ addition.
the top of a new south end zone structure would be higher than the east side of the stadium, and there would be a gap between the west sky boxes and the new sez addition. it's probably feasible, but that would be ugly. bhg isn't very aesthetically pleasing to begin with, but that would make it even uglier.

quote:

The bottom decks at Kyle were built in the late '20s and BHG was originally built in 1930

But still modern in every respect.
This post was edited on 12/17/12 at 5:14 pm
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 5:12 pm to
UF's BHG is landlocked. Not much room to do much imo
Posted by tiger perry
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 5:15 pm to
I know about the expansion to Tiger Stadium's South Endzone. Never heard anything about a North Endzone expansion.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:09 pm to
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I know about the expansion to Tiger Stadium's South Endzone. Never heard anything about a North Endzone expansion.



South EZ has already started. NEZ is really just in the preliminary discussion/planning phase. IMO TAF won't send out any emails to TAF members seeking their input until 2015. Just looking at the space to be filled and necessary changes to N. Stadium Drive, the NEZ would cost more than the south.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 12:34 am to
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Just looking at the space to be filled and necessary changes to N. Stadium Drive, the NEZ would cost more than the south.


The NEZ is larger than the south, and there's more obstacles, so the expansion there will be a more challenging build.

On the plus side, it will hold more suites, club seating, and general admission seats than the SEZ addition.

I expect the NEZ to be more open than the SEZ. I hope to see balconies instead of the faux Tiger Stadium look the SEZ will sport.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 7:37 am to
quote:

South EZ has already started. NEZ is really just in the preliminary discussion/planning phase. IMO TAF won't send out any emails to TAF members seeking their input until 2015. Just looking at the space to be filled and necessary changes to N. Stadium Drive, the NEZ would cost more than the south.


ok thanks for the clarification. Tiger Stadium will look badass with a North Endzone makeover. Hope they do work on the outside of the stadium for a new north entrance plaza. Would make sense if they started work on that after the North Endzone was expanded.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:13 am to
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The rumored addition of the North End Zone expansion in 2016 or 2017 will give Tiger Stadium a total capacity of around 108,000 and 200 suites.
THat aint happening any time soon!
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15648 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:16 am to
quote:

South EZ has already started. NEZ is really just in the preliminary discussion/planning phase. IMO TAF won't send out any emails to TAF members seeking their input until 2015. Just looking at the space to be filled and necessary changes to N. Stadium Drive, the NEZ would cost more than the south.
If they were really seriously considering this, why in the hell didn't go all out and do the south endzone expansion right?
Posted by Rum Drink in Hand
Corpus Christi, Texas
Member since Dec 2012
24 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:26 am to
As other posters have stated, the details are being held close to the vest until there is a formal determination on how the expansion will occur (in a multi-year phase plan, which is supported by the Bryan/College Station Chamber of Commerce) or a single year build out (requiring the home games to likely be played at Reliant Stadium in Houston). There will likely be around a 100K capacity in order to create a sufficient demand to make the tickets a hot item. the higher the number of seats over 100K, the less cache individual game tickets carry and the more schools are tempted to flirt with corporate block sponsors.

In short, no one knows anything apart from the fact this will be a very nice, first rate expansion with a focus on LOUD.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:50 am to
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Is there absolutely no room for expansion?
they can tear down the piece of shite O-Dome, which might be the worst facility I have ever been in
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:57 am to
The RFP I posted earlier states that it will be a multi-year phase plan so as to allow Kyle Field to host A&M games during the season (as opposed to a relocation to Reliant).
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