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re: 5 SEC head coaches teamed up against the "Saban Rule"

Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:25 pm to
Regardless, Saban and Bert are pulling one of the best coaching troll jobs of all time.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:53 pm to
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Don't you ever get tired of being both wrong and full of shite?
You have to be wrong to get tired of it. I am sure you can give everyone some pointers on what its like. The offense controlling the clock isn't a loop hole and your HC did try to help sneak a rule through.

The playclock rule was put in place to keep the refs from dragging around and to speed up the game. The game is designed so that at any point the ball is ruled in play the offense can snap it. It is not a loop hole to snap the ball right after the ball is set. They are not supposed to wait on the defense.

Teams ran the HUNH with success before the rule change. Gus led the nation in offense the year before they changed it. The game changes and so do the rules. Most coach don't mind the HUNH. So there is no need to change rules for a couple whiny coaches that want the game to be like the 50's. The simple fact that Saban and Bret can't even come up with a good excuse to pass a rule, shows you there isn't one.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:43 pm to
The rules were changed in 2008 to shorten the games.

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The game changes and so do the rules.


I thought you didn't like rule changes?
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 7:49 pm to
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The rules were changed in 2008 to shorten the games.

I said speed the games up. If they want to shorten the games they either have to give less time for the game or don't stop the clock as much. Telling people what they can do with their given time isn't going to shorten the games. Seconds are just the same no matter how fast or slow you play.

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I thought you didn't like rule changes?
I am for rules to help CFB overall. Not to help a couple of coaches that think they deserve special treatment. If other coaches can sub against HUNH teams then its no ones fault but their own that they can't and there shouldn't be a rule made to accommodate them.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 7:54 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:02 pm to
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I am for rules to help CFB overall
I see you're not tired of being full of shite, either.
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:09 pm to
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The hurry up and wait at the LOS offense? Ninja please.



The NCAA adopted the NFL play clock. But they had to make adjustments. Peyton and the Colts would not huddle but would line up at scrimmage and Peyton would call the plays and make the adjustments, often taking the entire play clock. To combat this the NFL enacted a new delay of game rule, which gave the offense 20 seconds to run the play once the offense came to the line of scrimmage, but no more than the time allowed between plays. This means that if the offense comes to the LOS with 34 seconds on the clock they only have until 14 seconds to get the play off. If the offense comes to the LOS with 12 seconds left they have until 0 to get the play off.

This rule would do away with the practice of the offense lining up with 30 seconds on the clock then at 22 seconds looking to the sideline for the play and then snapping the ball with 4 seconds left on the clock. There are going to have to be adjustments made. This Fall expect to see officials try to keep the same place for getting a ball into play, some leagues using an extra official, and an explosion of fake injuries by defensive players. Major rule changes after next season.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:15 pm to
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I see you're not tired of being full of shite, either.
Well 70%+ of the coaches agree and so does most fans. So CFB agrees with me. If it was so bad and so wrong most would want it gone. There is nothing that shows its bad for CFB or needs a rule. Saban saying that its bad doesn't equal facts showing its is. I know you can't handle your HC being wrong but he is and so are you, blindly following him.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 8:18 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32426 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 8:18 pm to
Only vagina is your pissy crybaby coach..
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:20 pm to
Great comeback. But if I recall, Saban's trusty sidekick was the only coach crying over that. Everyone already knows he a vag too.
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:32 pm to
I have no problem with players flopping, then sitting out a play. I hope to see a lot of it this Fall.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:40 pm to
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I have no problem with players flopping, then sitting out a play. I hope to see a lot of it this Fall.
I hope Saban tries it too. It will go down as the biggest melt in CFB history. They will definitely have a rule against flopping after next year. Saban would have given Gus what he wanted and still not get his anti-HUNH rule.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:41 pm
Posted by bamamonty
Jasper,Al
Member since Feb 2014
459 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:46 pm to
Well, 4 of the 5 have to complain. They're jobs are on the line because the run this HUNH offense(high-school ball). They're not complete football coaches because they could care less about defense.

The Old Ball Coach, he's got a case of the "green-eyed monster". He doesn't want to be over shadowed by Saban on anything. He's worried about his legacy.

What's really funny is that you call it the Saban rule and he didn't author it or speak in favor of it. He just wanted the defense to be able to substitute.
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:53 pm to
South Carolina defensive coordinator Ellis Johnson believes that hurry-up offenses are ruining college football. Johnson made some terrific points during a radio interview with Bo Mattingly.

Johnson said, “One thing that has gotten into it that I’ve been pretty outspoken, that I really think is starting to deteriorate some of college football is the hurry up offenses. There is nothing wrong a pace and speeding up the play on the operation side. I get that.”

“But what’s happening now with the rules is that you can snap it as soon as you want to or you can sit on it for 40 seconds, and there is no in-between.”

“Canadian ball is very fast-paced, but the offense can’t sit there all day long. They have a 20 second limit. The NFL cut it out with Buffalo in the 90’s, they kind of put some cold water on it a little bit with the Colts not too many years ago. What they realized is they’re taking the game of football and turning it into soccer or lacrosse. There’s nothing wrong with those sports, but that’s not football.”


Ellis Johnson on the HUNH
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:04 pm to
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Strange, Les Miles isn't on that list.

Miles is too classy to get involved in this argument.

Plus, he and Saban are boys. At least, he thinks he and Saban are boys.
Posted by bamamonty
Jasper,Al
Member since Feb 2014
459 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 10:29 pm to
Les has got the perfect defense for the HUHN-LSU tumble. He's took the edge off this offense-pure and simple.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:28 pm to
Freeze has more power than Saban after the way Alabama's season ended
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:38 am to
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Well 70%+ of the coaches agree and so does most fans. So CFB agrees with me. If it was so bad and so wrong most would want it gone. There is nothing that shows its bad for CFB or needs a rule. Saban saying that its bad doesn't equal facts showing its is. I know you can't handle your HC being wrong but he is and so are you, blindly following him.
You still don't get it, Goober. I couldn't give less of a frick whether there's a rule or not (check all my previous posts on the subject), but I find it ridiculous for you haters to try to make such a huge issue of all this. As it's been stated numerous times on this forum, it's the haters who have made such a fuss over it all, and if/when Alabama shuts the HUNH teams down next year, y'all will look really foolish...but that won't be anything unusual, either.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22677 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 6:05 am to
ALABAMA FANS: THE DEFENSE CAN SUBSTITUTE ANYTIME THEY WANT.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/12/14 at 6:53 am to
My god I don't know if some of you guys could be more full of shite if you tried.

Keep calling it high school football, that's fine, but it wasn't the offense that held Alabama to 28 points.
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