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re: 5 SEC head coaches teamed up against the "Saban Rule"
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:59 pm to hogminer
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:59 pm to hogminer
quote:The clock being controlled by the offense isn't a loop hole. Its the way the game was made to be played. However Saban and Bret trying to sneak a rule through because the way the rules committee works would be a loop hole that needs to be fixed.
They thought their loophole was closing so they scrambled. Props to them for getting together and coordinating their defense.
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:12 pm to Rabern57
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The clock being controlled by the offense isn't a loop hole.
its not about controlling the clock its about controlling defensive substitutions.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:13 pm to Rabern57
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Its the way the game was made to be played.
The hurry up and wait at the LOS offense? Ninja please.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:16 pm to StopRobot
quote:Well since a lot of coaches that play against it have no problem sub-ing then there shouldn't be special rules for the few that can't. Its their own fault they can't sub fast enough or that their players aren't in condition to play. If they allowed rules for every little thing a few coaches didn't like the game would be a wreck.
its not about controlling the clock its about controlling defensive substitutions.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:17 pm to StopRobot
quote:defense can sub whenever they want
its about controlling defensive substitutions.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:18 pm to NYCAuburn
he also neglects to mention that Saban has faced the other three only twice so Sumlin being .500 is good. Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:22 pm to hogminer
quote:The slowly walk to the line then see which team's 300lb guys can push over the other team's. Who ever has the most talent wins and the coach can sit back and watch. Thats how BB and Saban want it. Heart Attacks, strokes, and broke ankles on every play.
The hurry up and wait at the LOS offense? Ninja please.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:26 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
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The issue is officiating.
Saban noted that in the NFL officials stand over the ball until officials are ready to call the game.
"Whether we like it or not as officials, the college rule is different than the NFL rule," Shaw said. "The college rule says when the ball is ready it can be snapped. So what we've got to do is be very consistent -- and I'm not just talking SEC, I'm talking nationally. This is a big topic with (officiating) coordinators: How do we stay very consistent from a timing perspective on when the ball is ready and certainly any time there's substitutions?"
Conference officiating coordinators, along with College Football Officiating, LLC, are in the process of writing up specific standards of how to spot the ball ready for play "for every official in America to read and understand," Shaw said.
In the SEC, Shaw said the general principle is the umpire will almost always spot the ball. The umpires are instructed to don't sprint, don't walk, but to jog crisply.
"I have nine SEC crews," Shaw said. "When you talk about pace, you have different athleticism of umpires. What is a crisp jog to one guy is maybe not the exact same crisp jog to another guy."
All I saw when I read this was "We need to slow down our superbly conditioned athletes because are referees are old fat-asses."
Hell, yeah... that's the kind of thing that will take our beloved college game to THE PEAK OF POPULARITY!
Cuz EVERYBODY loves to watch old fat-asses!
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:30 pm to StopRobot
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its not about controlling the clock its about controlling defensive substitutions.
Yep. It's because of the play clock rules changing in 2008. The officials used to get the ball into play, get set in position and blow the whistle ready to play. The team had 25 seconds to get the play off. Now, a 40 second clock starts when the ball is blown dead. The refs are helping the HUNH teams by rushing the ball into play, and the Defensive teams don't have time to substitute and get set, and the officials are getting tired and out of position. The refs need to stop rushing the ball into play to help HUNH teams, or go back to the pre-2008 clock rules.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:32 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
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go back to the pre-2008 clock rules
but but but, this is the way football has been played forEVAR
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:33 pm to NYCAuburn
1-1 vs. Scott Cochran 
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:34 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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but but but, this is the way football has been played forEVAR
Exactly.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:35 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
Oregon was running it before 2008
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:48 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
quote:FIFY
In the SEC, Shaw said the general principle is the umpire will almost always spot the ball. The umpires are instructed to don't sprint, don't walk unless Alabama is on defense, but to jog crisply.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:02 pm to Cockopotamus
Stop the insanity.
This offseason has been the dumbest by far.
This offseason has been the dumbest by far.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:11 pm to Bham4Tide
quote:This will be the topic all offseason and you can blame it all on your HC.
Stop the insanity.
This offseason has been the dumbest by far.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:15 pm to StopRobot
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its not about controlling the clock its about controlling defensive substitutions.
Coaches should prepare their teams to substitute faster. Is there a problem with that line of thinking?
Otherwise, the offense doesn't need to substitute, don't see why the defense should be gifted a luxury the offense has forfeited just because they aren't used to having to substitute against an up tempo offense.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:40 pm to Rabern57
quote:Don't you ever get tired of being both wrong and full of shite?
The clock being controlled by the offense isn't a loop hole. Its the way the game was made to be played. However Saban and Bret trying to sneak a rule through because the way the rules committee works would be a loop hole that needs to be fixed.
"The debate over tempo is an indirect result of college football adopting the 40-second play clock in 2008.
Before the change, there was a 25-second clock. The umpire would stand over the ball, and then the referee would provide the ready-for-play signal to start the clock. Refs generally averaged 12 to 15 seconds between the ball being spotted and signaled ready for play -- a period in which defenses could substitute.
"It's very different now than when we first started the 40-second play clock," Shaw said. "Nobody was pressing the clock like they are now. So we've had to adapt as officials and we've had to work to be consistent. We've had to work to ensure we're set and ready to go at the beginning of a play, and we've had to work to make sure instant replay is done within the time window of the hurry-up window."
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:47 pm to coachcrisp
Exactly. Saban and Bert are complaining about a 2008 rule that changed the game. I don't blame some coaches for taking advantage of it, but is it fair? They need to decide what they want the nature of the game to be.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 6:22 pm to volfan30
The Bitch 5
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