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re: 247 article: VOLS will return to prominence in 2015
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:39 am to NorthGAVol
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:39 am to NorthGAVol
Nobody expected UT to be down this long and I think most of us have expected a return to prominence (not necessarily dominance). The SEC is going to be right up there with the west within the next couple seasons imo.
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:44 am to FourThreeForty
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Butch Jones, like all the other coaches in the East, won't get farther than a division crown.
You know richt has won multiple sec titles right?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:48 am to Larry
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In one year we will get "VOLS will return to prominence in 2016."
There are a few analysts who think 2016 already. However, I disagree as do most of us we've been saying 2015 for ages now. Check my postings.
The 2015 projection is based 90+% on maturation and recruiting upgrades which are already here at the skills position but we still need more bodies for the lines. When most of your team is true frosh and true soph's - 2015 makes a great deal of sense.
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All I hear from UT fans is the "you just wait."
Well of course. We predict it will be 2015 so it would be rather silly of us to say it will be now. Our collective projection for this year has been a baseline of 6-6 with anything over that an exceeding of expectations - a better or worse outcome more than that is possible with this team given all the unknowns.
Next year however, maturity, and depth will be in place with fresh depth and talent coming into the lines. It will still be a young team but you better believe it will make some noise.
Care to make any other dismissive ad hominem attacks? I haz factz an analer-uh-sis to makez me argumentz - them there things are tha thingamajigs solid arguments and valid purdickshuns are based upon.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:51 am to NorthGAVol
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VOLS will return to prominence in 2015
I take that to mean they might beat Vandy this year.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:51 am to NorthGAVol
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The Big Orange giant
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:09 pm to NorthGAVol
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Laugh all you want but after Butch reels in another stacked recruiting class this year, VOLS will most likely be the most talented team in the East in 2015.
Wrong
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:12 pm to NorthGAVol
According to 247, Tennessee got 14 four star or better defensive linemen from the 2010 to 2014 recruiting classes. Also according to 247, Missouri got three in that time frame, and two of them are playing in the NFL now. Why does Missouri get so much more out of their defensive linemen with that gigantic of a talent disparity?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:13 pm to Sarcastro
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According to 247, Tennessee got 14 four star or better defensive linemen from the 2010 to 2014 recruiting classes. Also according to 247, Missouri got three in that time frame, and two of them are playing in the NFL now. Why does Missouri get so much more out of their defensive linemen with that gigantic of a talent disparity?
Two words:
Derek Dooley
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:17 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Wrong
Right.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:20 pm to NorthGAVol
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Right
Explain
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:20 pm to Sarcastro
Because Pinkel is one of the best in the country at developing talent. Their teams are usually loaded with RS Jrs and RS Srs
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:21 pm to NorthGAVol
Searching for HOPE, just like OM fans.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:23 pm to NorthGAVol
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It will happen. The Big Orange giant is waking up and Alabama is #1 on his shite list.
The last coach to get you within three TDs is on the Alabama sideline now.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:25 pm to NorthGAVol
It's always next year with you people. Y'all might just be the cubs of the SEC.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:29 pm to Phat Phil
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Two words:
Derek Dooley
I'd add another to go along with him: attrition.
Dooley's attrition rate and his failure to file legitimate waivers was the reason for our low APR mess. Now that those waivers have been filed that's fixed but the attrition under Kiffin-Dooley is still unheard of. Not only did Dooley fail to recruit linemen - both Kiffin and Dooley brought in recruits that typically lasted a year (sometimes less and sometimes they made to 2 whole years! they were rare though) and I don't mean a 1 and done JUCO either.
Since the Spring of last year (2013) our roster has flipped 66 spots!
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:37 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Explain
By 2015, Butch will have either processed all of the bad players that Dooley recruited or recruited over them with better talent. We only lose Worley, Marlin Lane and Devrin Young on offense..AJ Johnson, Coleman and Jordan Williams on defense after this season.
I would even say that 95% of the 2015 VOLS 2-deep will be made up of nothing but Butch's guys from the '14 & '15 classes, which will both be the best classes in the East for both years. Combine that with a few of the studs that Jones brought in with the '13 class (North, JRM, Sutton, Vereen) and we are as talented or more talented that anyone from the East.
The cherry on top of all that is that we've already seen Butch coach circles around Richt and SOS with a much less talented team. VOLS should be looking for at least 9 wins in 2015 when you consider our easier schedule and revamped roster.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:38 pm to NorthGAVol
Thanks for the lulz
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:39 pm to Prof
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Since the Spring of last year (2013) our roster has flipped 66 spots!
Holy shite. That's why Butch will get 4 yrs, at the very least. Unless he really chokes in 15, but yeah, i didn't realize the numbers were that bad.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:47 pm to NorthGAVol
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By 2015, Butch will have either processed all of the bad players that Dooley recruited or recruited over them with better talent. We only lose Worley, Marlin Lane and Devrin Young on offense..AJ Johnson, Coleman and Jordan Williams on defense after this season.
I would even say that 95% of the 2015 VOLS 2-deep will be made up of nothing but Butch's guys from the '14 & '15 classes, which will both be the best classes in the East for both years. Combine that with a few of the studs that Jones brought in with the '13 class (North, JRM, Sutton, Vereen) and we are as talented or more talented that anyone from the East.
You say this like UGA and UF are just sitting around doing nothing. UT recruiting well isn't happening in a vacuum.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:50 pm to NorthGAVol
Since Butch Jones got to cinci in 2010, a team coming off a 12-1 season, he is 10-19 against teams with winning records.
In his 2 10 win seasons he feasted on losing teams, going 15-1. He was only 5-5 against teams above .500.
He was 2-6 last year at ut against teams with winning records.
Hes gotta do better than what hes done before for ut to come back.
In his 2 10 win seasons he feasted on losing teams, going 15-1. He was only 5-5 against teams above .500.
He was 2-6 last year at ut against teams with winning records.
Hes gotta do better than what hes done before for ut to come back.
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