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re: 2015 Kentucky Wildcats: Best Team Ever?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:09 am to Kentucker
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:09 am to Kentucker
Yeah I wasn't talking smack. I think y'all have the best team this season, but definitely not the best ever. If you'd read, I've said past UK teams were better than this one which is true.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:29 am to bbap
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Well he wrote "all" and you posted a pic of one trophy (ceremony).
I assume that is his point.
He said they didn't win the hardware, which was a lie.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:30 am to RTR America
quote:It's impossible to say any team is GOAT at midseason....but if they can (and should) continue to settle in to their "personality" as a team with each individual learning and embracing his role on the team, then I can't see what's to keep them from being the best. I've been following college basketball for over 50 years and know a little something about the game and its history, so I'm not easily impressed.
Why? Because they've had a couple of sluggish conference games? The numbers sure back them up as arguably the best defensive force in CBB history at this point. It is way too early to say they are the best team ever, but I also think it is way to early to just scoff at the idea. The UK 96 team is still the all-time best, but if they end up undefeated it is hard to make an argument against them.
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:36 am to Jawja_Joe
Backcourt - heck no. Guard play is lacking, mostly because the Harrisons suck. Their size and defense is useful though and occasionally they make 3's. Ulis and Booker are legit.
Frontcourt - Good god almighty. They don't have a Duncan or an Okafor, but they have more NBA quality bigs in their rotation than most NBA teams. Lyles is a stretch four and Cal is playing that SOB at the 3. It's almost like a giant middle finger to everyone else in the NCAA like "just try and match up with THIS!"
Frontcourt - Good god almighty. They don't have a Duncan or an Okafor, but they have more NBA quality bigs in their rotation than most NBA teams. Lyles is a stretch four and Cal is playing that SOB at the 3. It's almost like a giant middle finger to everyone else in the NCAA like "just try and match up with THIS!"
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:36 am to thirdlawson
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What?!?! I'm a Syracuse fan, yes hell they did!!
He's referencing them losing in the SEC Tournament to the eventual Final Four squad from Mississippi State.
It's a hilarious rationalization when they split with State that year and UMass (who both went to the Final Four).
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:40 am to thesoccerfanjax
That was a pathetic attempt at sarcasm. I stand by the notion that teams from today are nowhere near as good as teams from the past because the best players play together for one year and leave.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:41 am to thirdlawson
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quote: 1990 UNLV and 1996 UK....Best 2 teams ever.
Agree 100%. That would have been an incredible basketball game.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:41 am to VADawg
Eh, Duke has a lot of experience. Virginia is more of your 4-year type as well. Kentucky is the extreme end of the one and done and shouldn't encapsulate college basketball as a whole.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:44 am to BluegrassBelle
Duke has some experience, but their best players still leave early (Parker last year, Okafor this year). Virginia and Wisconsin are exceptions to modern college basketball. Both senior laden teams, and both are really good.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:47 am to VADawg
I agree with that. But powerhouses are still powerhouses and the shitty programs still suck, with very few exceptions.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:47 am to VADawg
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I stand by the notion that teams from today are nowhere near as good as teams from the past because the best players play together for one year and leave.
The '73 Bruins were the best team I have ever seen. That is the year that Walton went 21 for 22 in the finals against Memphis State. They had all Jrs and Srs starting. All of those guys played in the league. Walton's back-up never started a game in college and was drafted in the first round.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:55 am to VADawg
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Duke has some experience, but their best players still leave early (Parker last year, Okafor this year). Virginia and Wisconsin are exceptions to modern college basketball. Both senior laden teams, and both are really good.
I've gotta disagree. Outside of Kentucky, players aren't leaving at such a discernible rate that that it's hurting college basketball. It's a straw man argument when you consistently have teams like Louisville, Duke (where majority stay but are still highly recruited), Wisky, Michigan State, UConn, and so on have by majority more 3-4 year guys then one and dones by a long shot.
And before these one and done guys you don't even see because they just go pro. So you could argue there's more raw talent.
There are bigger issues hurting college basketball like officiating, the shot clock, and no defensive 3 seconds.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:56 am to BluegrassBelle
Many people on this board just look for reasons to not like basketball. The one and done thing is overstated and it's one of them.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:58 am to VADawg
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. I stand by the notion that teams from today are nowhere near as good as teams from the past because the best players play together for one year and leave.
I agree that teams aren't as good as the past- not even that close to being as good.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:59 am to BluegrassBelle
Yeah the 40 second shot clock has got to be cut down by at least 10 seconds. I'm with you there.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:08 am to MSUbulldogs03
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definitely not the best ever
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:21 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:This.
I've gotta disagree. Outside of Kentucky, players aren't leaving at such a discernible rate that that it's hurting college basketball.
Bottom line, talking basketball with SEC fans is kinda difficult because many don't follow closely especially outside the SEC.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:25 am to MSUbulldogs03
And the whole notion that college basketball has changed is completely stupid. Just look at the past national champions. Outside of UK, your Final 4 teams/ Champions are teams that are built on Jr and Sr players.
UCLA is a prime example of a school that has tried the one and done approach, and it's turned out awful for them.
UCLA is a prime example of a school that has tried the one and done approach, and it's turned out awful for them.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:29 am to Jawja_Joe
I don't always pick the greatest college basketball team of all time... But when I do, it's in January with 2 and a half months left in the season.
#dosequised
#dosequised
Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:32 am to Jawja_Joe
1973 UCLA would beat them 7-10 points.
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