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re: 2014 Coach on the Hot Seat?

Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:24 am to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:24 am to
I need a link to that....

Nothing in any article states how much it would cost if he was fired
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:34 am to
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Nothing in any article states how much it would cost if he was fired


because it's common sense they would have to pay a majority of what's left on the contract

Coaching buyouts have started coming into play to protect the schools- hell, one of the reasons Stansbury didnt go to Clemson back in 2009 was because of the buyout in his contract
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 11:34 am
Posted by devtiger1
valley grande, Alabama
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:34 am to
GUS should just resign if we dont win 10 games with what we have coming back on offense.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:37 am to
I see nothing about a higher buyout
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Sources have confirmed that while it may not be the reason Stansbury and Clemson didn’t become a done deal, The SDN Bulldog Blog was notified the figure of Stansbury’s buyout clause in his Mississippi State contract is $500,000.
Mississippi State athletic director Greg Byrne confirmed during Stansbury’s meeting with the local media that the university intends on extending Stansbury’s contract to the state-allowed limit of four years but is not receiving a raise of his current salary which is around $1.3 million per year.
Clemson officials called Byrne for permission to talk with Stansbury Thursday evening and that’s when the first conversation took place.
Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips and associated athletic director Billy D’Andrea met with Stansbury and his wife Meo Saturday afternoon in a location Stansbury described as “north of Atlanta” (YES, I KNOW, TECHNICALLY MY HOMETOWN OF OCONOMOWOC, WISCONSIN IS NORTH OF ATLANTA WHICH IS THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF) but it was in the Atlanta area.
Rick and Meo Stansbury also met with Mississippi State president Mark Keenum and his wife Rhonda late Sunday night to discuss the situation.
Stansbury discussed the situation with current Florida head coach Billy Donovan. Donovan accepted the head coaching position with the NBA’s Orlando Magic for only three days before resigning and returning to his old job on the UF campus.
Stansbury said Mississippi State assistant coach Phil Cunningham has been contacted about another job and many news outlets are reporting that position is head coach of Gardner Webb University.
Clemson University has been turned down in a public way by Mississippi State head coach Rick Stansbury and is still without a head men’s basketball coach after reportedly interviewing Wright State head coach Brad Brownell, Old Dominion head coach Blaine Taylor, Jacksonville University head coach Cliff Warren, Wofford head coach Mike Young, former Boston College head coach Al Skinner and the Tigers associate head coach Ron Bradley.


LINK
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:45 am to
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Sources have confirmed that while it may not be the reason Stansbury and Clemson didn’t become a done deal, The SDN Bulldog Blog was notified the figure of Stansbury’s buyout clause in his Mississippi State contract is $500,000.


Clemson wasnt too excited about having to pay that 500K. What are you not understanding????
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:49 am to
Well you keep talking about a different buyout for Mullen, I'm waiting on some sort of link and then you bring up Stansbury who only had a 500,000 buyout according to reports
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:54 am to
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Well you keep talking about a different buyout for Mullen, I'm waiting on some sort of link and then you bring up Stansbury who only had a 500,000 buyout according to reports


Stands buyout was 500K- he only made 1.3 plus bonuses

Mullen's buyout to be hired away is 1.4MM- he makes 3MM per year total with bonuses.

To fire those coaches, State would have to pay a large majority of whatever is left on their contract. So to fire Mullen after 2014- State would have to pay him about 7MM when all is said and done.

No coach is going to agree to a 1.4MM buyout when fired when he would get so much more. Nobody is that stupid and I dont see why you arent understanding this
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:55 am to
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Well you keep talking about a different buyout for Mullen, I'm waiting on some sort of link


You have already provided the link for Mullen's buyout
Posted by prisonpunk
Member since Dec 2013
1598 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:09 pm to
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sumlin will be on the hotseat and will be fired after the 2015 season


what's his buyout? How do you fire a $5 million coach?
Posted by CoffeeAg
Sherman Oaks, CA
Member since Apr 2014
633 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:10 pm to
When you have A&M money, it isn't an issue
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:18 pm to
That explains it better than saying he has 2 buyouts....


So State has to pay the remaining year on his contract if he is fired after this season and the buyout?
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:22 pm to
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That explains it better than saying he has 2 buyouts....


So State has to pay the remaining year on his contract if he is fired after this season and the buyout?



ok- you have to be trolling now

Mullen wants to leave State for another job- State has to be paid 1.4 million

State wants to fire Mullen? They will have to pay about 2.3-2.5MM per year left on his contract

Cant explain it any better than that
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:59 pm to
I can't understand it for you. But it's really simple -- and I already explained it once.

This was looked to in depth last year when we believed he may be on the hot seat. His contract was down to 2 years last year -- and we would have owed him the full sum of what was remaining on the contract had we chosen to fire him.

It was extended to the MS maximum of 4 years this year -- meaning we'd owe him for 3 full years if we fired him at the end of this year.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:07 pm to
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They just don't realize that you need alot of talent for that


O line talent, which we're getting.

The collective SEC is so scared of a resurgent Arkansas that they make up these silly scenarios like you need #1 recruiting classes to run the ball.


Wouldn't Arkansas need to have been good in the first place to become "resurgent"?

Posted by E Street Rebel
Member since Apr 2014
45 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 8:11 pm to
are LSU fans inpatient with Miles? I think he's good but what do LSU fans think of him
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64810 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:11 pm to
Lol at engie confusing "new years day bowl" with "a bowl that happens to be on new years".

one year, the liberty bowl fell on nyd
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 9:19 pm to
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How do you fire a $5 million coach?
The same way you fire any coach. If they are not performing up to expectations then they need to be shown the door, regardless of salary
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 4/26/14 at 11:57 pm to
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Lol at engie confusing "new years day bowl" with "a bowl that happens to be on new years".

one year, the liberty bowl fell on nyd


so the last 19 years in a row on New Years Day doesnt make it a NYD bowl game?


Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 12:19 am to
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Not with a dominate Defense and plain Offense. Arkansas' success in the SEC has mostly came from Offense and outscoring teams.




You know we've gone to the SECCG 3 times, and none were with Petrino coaching, right?

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13366 posts
Posted on 4/27/14 at 12:36 am to
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You know we've gone to the SECCG 3 times, and none were with Petrino coaching, right?

But 2 were with Nutt (one with Gus) and his defenses were giving up about 20 to 25 points a game. That is not a dominant defense. They won because their offense was scoring 30+ a game. I didn't say Bret wouldn't ever win a game in the SEC but I don't see him getting the talent to outman enough teams to win much.
This post was edited on 4/27/14 at 12:43 am
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