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re: 2001 Louisiana State

Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:52 am to
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 9:52 am to
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That said, you were still losing by 6 at the time and no guarantee you would have gone down and gotten a TD


Well it should have been a guarantee that we get that shot. Hard to win when you aren't even given a chance right?

And this is one of those "multi-score" games You don't even consider close... Would us having the ball down 6 pts with 6 min left in the 4th be close? Closer than down 13 I guess when y'all scored on a second chance drive

The point is it was taken out of the teams hands, Bama wins, 1v2 SECG
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 10:09 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39291 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:09 am to
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neither the helmet thing with Cody nor the Peterson interception would have altered the result.


The Peterson interception would have allowed the LSU offense the chance to win the game. There was plenty of time for them to do it. I've made the point several times, on the LSU board, that the offense more than likely would have failed. But you never can tell. You can't say categorically that it wouldn't have altered the game. I'd put the chances at 20%.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:11 am to
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I'd put the chances at 20%.


That's the point, there was a 20% chance at a loss. The Replay official employed by the Southeastern Conference made that chance 0%.

Then years later Bama fans can categorize it as a multi score win that was never even in question (Bama scored on that drive)

This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 10:29 am
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:12 am to
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The point is it was taken out of the teams hands

I just don't buy into the conspiracy theories like so many LSU fans do. If the conference was willing to do what you imply then 1) so many people would have to be "in the know" and there is no way to keep that many people quiet about something like that, and 2) why didn't they keep LSU from 2 losses in 2007? They could have "given them more calls than usual" to ensure a shot at a natty. Instead, LSU lost twice and needed to, essentially, shoot the moon on the final week of the season in order to work your way into the natty. If what you imply is true, the conference could have made that happen a lot easier than a team going from #5 to #2 and needing Missouri and WVU to lose in order for that to happen.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7959 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:15 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:18 am to
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I just don't buy into the conspiracy theories like so many LSU fans do. If the conference was willing to do what you imply then 1) so many people would have to be "in the know" and there is no way to keep that many people quiet about something like that, and 2) why didn't they keep LSU from 2 losses in 2007? They could have "given them more calls than usual" to ensure a shot at a natty. Instead, LSU lost twice and needed to, essentially, shoot the moon on the final week of the season in order to work your way into the natty. If what you imply is true, the conference could have made that happen a lot easier than a team going from #5 to #2 and needing Missouri and WVU to lose in order for that to happen.
I agree with you here. But besides some type of corruption, how is it possible they missed that int call? I mean, it wasnt even close. There is no way someone honestly thought there was any level of doubt he got one foot down with possession. He clearly got three Although, I think the game that was clear there was corruption was the Arkansas/Florida game from 2009. That was ridiculous from start to finish
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 10:21 am
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
2027 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:26 am to
Saban's first processing. UT still hasn't recovered.
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:27 am to
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Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:42 am to
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And the blatant offensive holding on Cooper at LSU that allowed the winning TD. That year was infuriating as an LSU fan.


I'm shocked ... SHOCKED and OUTRAGED about this. Who knew? Finally the truth is coming out. An LSU fan has gotten to the bottom of the cesspool and published the ulta-truth, a report that the refs cheated LSU out of an obvious win. Was it Ritter? The SEC office in Birmingham? the schedules? Bias against poor wittle LSU? Why is it a fact that everyone hates LSU and cheats them and disrespects them and doesn't think they are the GOAT in everything all the time when they really are?

Shocked I tell you SHOCKED. Why is LSU ALWAYS, throughout history, so inflicted and put upon? Why do the refs ALWAYS cheat LSU? Why do they call little picky nothing personal foul calls on LSU and cheat them out of their rightful place as the best team in FB? Why do they say PP was bobbling the ball when he had a foot in bounds sometime before he caught the ball? It is disgusting the level of cheating against LSU that goes on.

Well...we here on this chat board know the truth. It is the illuminati, the SEC office in Birmingham crowd that picks refs that are alumni of Alabama..or assigns refs whose daughters go to school at Alabama (actually they don't/didn't but they could have if they wanted to so that is the same thing) and who are being held hostage in some frat house forcing the ref to favor Alabama (there could be other schools but is really just Alabama SEC office orchestrating the whole thing.)

It is enough to make a Tiger want to go to the Big-12.

This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 10:52 am
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:43 am to
quote:

adamb2151


cool screen grab. Now watch the video and see the DB sit after that at about the 15 and lean toward LOS like he thought LSU was in cover two and he had flats.

Cooper absolutely grabbed the jersey - just like happens dozens of teams during a game by each team and it doesn't get called - but the DB got beat b/c he sat on the flats for some reason. Heck, the ball was thrown by Tebow to Riley freaking Cooper. That DB could have recovered from the jersey tug if he was playing man or cover 3 all along.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:49 am to
I wish home crowds would just turn into angry mobs and make an example out of a referee or two after a particularly badly called game.

I'm betting they'd make better calls if they knew their lives depended on it...
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:56 am to
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I first noticed this in 06.

Auburn was chosen by the conference to be the NC hope that year, LSU was bent over by the refs multiple times that game.

I could've killed Tom Ritter after that game.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:07 am to
You are crazy. He ripped the jersey back and pulled the db back a yard as he ran past him. I can upload the next 4 screen frames if you would like.

Point is, that play gets called holding 99% of the time as well as alot of other game altering plays that werent called that year in the SEC. To say this year there was corruption around SEC officiating is not far fetched. Unless you are one of the teams who bennefitted from it, then you are blinded understandably.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:16 am to
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You are crazy. He ripped the jersey back and pulled the db back a yard as he ran past him. I can upload the next 4 screen frames if you would like.

Point is, that play gets called holding 99% of the time as well as alot of other game altering plays that werent called that year in the SEC. To say this year there was corruption around SEC officiating is not far fetched. Unless you are one of the teams who bennefitted from it, then you are blinded understandably.


WAAAAAAA... IT ISN'T FAIR THE WAY LSU IS ALWAYS CHEATED ON EVERY PLAY IN EVERY BIG GAME .. it is corruption, fixed games, or LSU would always win. .. ought to go the big 12.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:19 am to
You are an idiot. Im not specifically talking about LSU. Typical Bama fan. Only see what you want to see and what fits your agenda. Ought to be a liberal.
This post was edited on 8/2/16 at 11:21 am
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
6922 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:28 am to
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Jacknola


#triggered
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:28 am to
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To say this year there was corruption around SEC officiating is not far fetched

It is far fetched b/c you are implying that it A) happened - which means it would have had to have been coordinated and many people would have to have had knowledge of it, yet B) no proof has come out that it happened, and C) that 2009 would have been the only year.

If it did happen, why only 2009? Why not other years? Why only benefit Bama and Florida? We constantly hear about LSU being a national name. Why isn't the conference "cheating" for LSU? You were 7-1 & #5 in country in 2012 going into Bama game. Why not cheat for LSU that year? You were 7-0 and #2 in country going into Bama game in 2015. Why not cheat for you then?
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:39 am to
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Why not cheat for you then?

OMG.. because everyone knows that the SEC office is in Birmingham and they cheat with refs, and schedules, and everything else, always for Alabama. Everyone knows that LSU is the biggest team in the conference so they the SEC-Bama office always looks for ways to cheat LSU as early and as often as possible. Everyone knows it, it is obvious, and so many LSU fans have pointed this out year after year that I'm surprised no one believes it.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:41 am to
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guarantee that we get that shot. Hard to win when you aren't even given a chance right? And this is one of those "multi-score" games You don't even consider close... Would us having the ball down 6 pts with 6 min left in the 4th be close? Closer than down 13 I guess when y'all scored on a second chance drive The point is it was taken out of the teams hands, Bama wins, 1v2 SECG


Give it up. You will never get a Bama fan to admit that their team isn't as good as they think they are and have had A LOT of help from the refs over the years.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/2/16 at 11:43 am to
A - who cares how many people knew about it. Doesnt mean it didnt happen. B - Just because nothing has come out doesnt mean it didnt happen. C- There is no way to know if that is the only year that officiating has been corrupt. There are other instances just none as blatant as 2009.

As for LSU those years you described, there is no guarantee that any SEC team would make it to the NC those years. What made 2009 unique is that both Florida and Bama were at the top. If they both made it to the SECCG than that would guarantee an SEC team in the NC. Once again, the motive seems pretty obvious to most except Bama and Florida fans.
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