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re: 20/20 In an Instant (Bonfire @ A&M)

Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:34 pm to
LINK

here it is on youtube for those who missed it

it was originally posted by Howdyagssec on the A&M board
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted by aggiegreen
College Station, TX
Member since Dec 2010
920 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:42 pm to
When you do it successfully for 89 years in a row without any issues i think it classifies as a freak accident when it fell the 90th time. I attended many bonfires and i was always more concerned about people getting burned. Never once thought about it falling.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Dude go frick yourself. This isn't the thread for your condescending teasip moralizing.


Your post is a freak accident.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80106 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:52 pm to
Technically, it fell in 1994, the first year it was on the polo fields.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4341 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:07 pm to
One rumor is that ground that was formally the Polo Field was unsteady and shifted a lot.

It had been moved from the Duncan Field because it was blowing embers into the neighborhood of Jersey Drive (now called George Bush).

Residents had to regularly wet down their roofs the day of Bonfire.

I remember Texas World Speedway offered their infield to hold Bonfire (grandstands and all) but students felt it was too far out of town and thus too hard for the students to work on it.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:42 pm to
Another well-intentioned thread goes wayward, courtesy of a horn.
You wanted attention; we see you.
Now go away.

Eta this should've been a response to oman.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 9:43 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:56 pm to
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lsusteve1


Classy post. Sincere thanks

I plan to watch it on youtube tomorrow. Have heard nothing but good things.

I've also heard I'll probably need some kleenex
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

I think the bonfire was a cool tradition, but it also seemed a little too damn dangerous.


it was the victim of "bigger and better each year" type of thinking. and they allowed students too much authority over design and construction. the pressure to improve is a good thing but the pressure to make things "bigger" is not. people get carried away and safety is relegated to a less important role.

what saddens me is the attitude today that an accident prevents the event to be done in the future. liability issues are just too strong.if it was done right, insurance should be available but no company wants to have anything to do with it.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 11:24 pm to
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basically encouraging flaming




Do you honestly believe he doesn't know that? That is exactly why he said it. He's an alter.


wow. I thought i had been around here long enough to learn the lay of the land. I was wrong.

Out of all the "alters" and shitty posts from "Aggy" fans i cant believe mine was made to be a farce.

I go along with alot of the shite we take and dont care about 99% but it strikes a nerve with me when people make bonfire jokes because i knew one of the brownpots that passed that day.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 12:49 am to
quote:

you are completely missing the point and your attempt to mal-align aggies on this board is borderline ridiculous man


What point am I missing?

I haven't maligned any Aggie. I corrected two statements, one of them absolutely moronic.

Lose the extreme victim mentality.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:38 am to
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but it strikes a nerve with me when people make bonfire jokes because i knew one of the brownpots that passed that day.


Most fans of other schools don't care about bonfire. Even fewer people care what strikes a nerve with you. When you tell anonymous internet posters--especially on this site--that they can't talk about something because it bothers you, what do you think they're going to do?
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 5:41 am to
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haven't maligned any Aggie. I corrected two statements, one of them absolutely moronic.



Thanks for setting the record straight. Really don't know what we'd do without you guys.


Now, go be a fig in some other thread.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 5:52 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42520 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 7:41 am to
That was a good watch.
A&M should have never allowed the bonfire to get that big.
The warning signs should have been there when you had a death and someone losing fingers during the cutting phase. Why would allow untrained students participate in tree cutting with an axe instead of letting professionals do it with chainsaws. Would you let untrained medical students conduct medical surgeries?

Shocked at how A&M avoided large liability in this case and how this was tied up in courts for 15 years. And to think families of the students that were sued home owner's policies were collected on. That's not right.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1627 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:08 am to
Get that big? While I agree that it was large, that was no where close to the largest Aggie Bonfire. The last one built was about half the height of the record one in the late 60s early 70s. At first I wasn't going to watch it but finally decided to watch it last night. Very tough to watch, and at one point it went to an interview with me that night and it kind of brought back everything from that night. The did a good job, but to be quite honest I wish I hadn't watched it.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50383 posts
Posted on 7/25/16 at 10:12 am to
The tallest was 109' in 1969.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 12:33 am to
quote:

Most fans of other schools don't care about bonfire. Even fewer people care what strikes a nerve with you. When you tell anonymous internet posters--especially on this site--that they can't talk about something because it bothers you, what do you think they're going to do?


im aware of all of that. i was just upset that it was a fellow aggie fan that was the one who called me out on it. guess we havent been properly introduced?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:01 am to
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When you do it successfully for 89 years in a row without any issues i think it classifies as a freak accident when it fell the 90th time. I attended many bonfires and i was always more concerned about people getting burned. Never once thought about it falling.


It fell in 1994 as well, luckily nobody was hurt. For most of the 90s there was talk of scaling back because it has just gotten so big.

It's honestly a wonder only a handful of people died prior to 1999. Between half the people on stack being drunk, all the long rides in the back of pickup trucks, bailing out of trees as they fell, etc. it was fricking dangerous. I did student bonfire and even with all the new safety rules and ban on all alcohol/truck bed riding, there were still 1-2 near fatalities a year. One guy snapped his femur in half back in 2008 and lost a lot of blood.
Posted by AggieLandman
Member since Sep 2014
281 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 1:52 am to
quote:

That was a good watch.
A&M should have never allowed the bonfire to get that big.
The warning signs should have been there when you had a death and someone losing fingers during the cutting phase. Why would allow untrained students participate in tree cutting with an axe instead of letting professionals do it with chainsaws. Would you let untrained medical students conduct medical surgeries?

Shocked at how A&M avoided large liability in this case and how this was tied up in courts for 15 years. And to think families of the students that were sued home owner's policies were collected on. That's not right.


There was a time in the not-so-distent past when people weren't raging litigious pussies.

Sadly, that time has passed.

I hope you enjoy the bland, joyless, straight jacketed world that people like you have brought about. The rest of us will pine for the days when our humanity had meaning.
Posted by The Balinese Club
Coastal Bend Area of Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2797 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:41 am to
I haven't watched it for that very reason.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:47 am to
It was a little weird how they made it seem like a non-reg thing when the Corps was the primary organization behind it/had like 100% participation. I guess it was just cheaper to not have to buy uniforms for the "student life" sections of the doc. I was a non-reg by the way; I'm just saying truths's truth.
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