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re: ESPN: Taylor Arrest Exposes Alabama

Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Does this mean we will stop getting 5* recruits and winning the conference?


No it just means that when they do win it, the national perception will be that the bad guys won.

If you're a bama fan, you probably don't care and if you're not it just makes it more fun to root for you to get beat.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:41 pm to
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and now the Crimson Tide look like big losers -- from the top down.



Upvoted
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30232 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:46 pm to
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No it just means that when they do win it, the national perception will be that the bad guys won. If you're a bama fan, you probably don't care
I know you could never understand. But when you are Bama fan sitting in the ATL Dome watching your team win the conference championship, or at other venues witnessing your team win national championships -- the last thing on your mind is shite like Jonathan Taylor getting arrested or Geno Smith getting his 2nd DUI.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:48 pm to
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Up until about 9 months ago (or whenever the Ray Rice thing surfaced) Domestic Violence WAS that "misdemeanor smaller crime" in America. It was what cops bitched about when they needed something concrete to bitch abo


Welcome to 2015. So you argument is that this is not a topic because it was more acceptable in the past. Even then it was not and is not a misdemeanor. The law has not changed in Georgia or Alabama. It is not the same as smoking a little weed or public intoxication. Wasn't 9 months ago and certainly is not now.

More press, sure, but it was a thug thing 10 minths ago and a thug thing now n
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:49 pm to
of course haley and chavis would recruit him. One was forced to move on, the other demoted to getting coffee until we could find a program dumb enough to have him. Looks like a couple rogue employees that LSU quickly dumped.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37584 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:49 pm to
LSU did not extend an offer to Taylor
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:52 pm to
We're all missing the relevant point.

Saban reached and Saban knew he reached.

He obviously doesn't feel very good about his D-line for 2015 to do something so out of character and desperate.

We have bama on the road and so even with our best O-line in years, we probably can't win because bama is in our heads,

but it should be giving a lot of encouragement to teams like Georgia, maybe a&m or lsu.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:53 pm to
Take it up with 24/7 hombré
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72195 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:53 pm to
247Sports believes that LSU offered.

LINK
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:55 pm to
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247Sports believes that LSU offered.


Relevance to Taylor assaulting women as a representative of the University of Alabama?
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37584 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:56 pm to
You know anyone with mod powers can edit that? It just takes Lucky or Charles Powers to add an LSU offer after Taylor said LSU gave him an offer (we all know offers aren't what they were 10 years ago, if they were Alabama would be over signing 200 kids).

Sonny and Shea were adamant for months that he wasn't offered "yet" and it upset a lot of fans. When he committed to Alabama the pitch forks came out.

It was said he would commit to LSU if an offer to sign was presented, I believe his uncle was quoted on that
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:58 pm to
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He obviously doesn't feel very good about his D-line for 2015 to do something so out of character and desperate.

this isn't out of character for Saban. He has been a hired gun for a long time, and he has always been about winning at all cost. He is usually pretty good at judging the risk and keeping control. He reaches from time to time. This might have been the farthest he reached because of the arse whipping handed to him by the tosu oline.

Sabans media management and pr is almost as good as his recruiting prowess.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72195 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:01 pm to
Not one ounce of relevance. But plenty of programs were willing to give him a third chance. It blew up in Alabama's face. Maybe, just maybe, this will stop everyone from giving in to a kid's athletic talents and overlooking their transgressions.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25006 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:06 pm to
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Alabama really does have a disgusting approach to things.

They will do damn near anything to keep their football team up there.



It's the entire foundation of their program: win...at all costs.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72195 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:07 pm to
This thread is rich. Glass houses and all...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111529 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:08 pm to
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quote: 247Sports believes that LSU offered. Relevance to Taylor assaulting women as a representative of the University of Alabama?

Plumbing the depths of dumb. Beefense is dumb. Noted.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72195 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:09 pm to
Overlooking my response?
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25006 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:12 pm to
By all means, enlighten the SECR faithful on how anything LSU has done holds a candle to Alabama's tradition of doing anything it takes to win.
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:14 pm to
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Alabama took a foolish chance on Taylor for one reason. After watching Ohio State's offensive line push around his defensive line in a 42-35 loss in the semifinals of the College Football Playoff, Saban wanted to make sure it didn't happen again.


Ohio State manhandled that DLine so bad the Tide have to get thugs and criminals to play for them....Urbz fault!
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 1:14 pm to
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Is it? There have been a few in the news lately but the overwhelming majority of players have not been arrested for DV.

Would be interested to know how the percentage of NFL players arrested for it compared to the general population


I think that is a very fair point that seems to get lost in transition. Domestic violence is a societal issue not a sports one.
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