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What are your thoughts on the NCAA eliminating the hardship waiver?

Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:06 pm
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The NCAA will no longer allow transfers to apply for a hardship waiver to become immediately eligible at their new school.

According to Yahoo! Sports' Nick Bromberg, the NCAA has ratified a new amendment that will allow transfers a possible sixth year of eligibility if they were already redshirted at a previous school. Transfers who leave schools under circumstances that previously qualified athletes for hardship waivers will now be forced to sit out a season.
https://www.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2015-03-18/ncaa-hardship-waivers-transfers-amendment-new-rules-mark-emmer

I hate it for many reasons...

One of which is because Khari Harding transferred to Tulsa from Auburn in hopes of being able to play closer to home and his father, who has cancer. Now he has to sit out a year.
Posted by blue_morrison
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:07 pm to
NCAA has no soul
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:08 pm to
Just like the OP
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:09 pm to
as a former ncaa athlete i'm 100% ok with it.
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One of which is because Khari Harding transferred to Tulsa from Auburn in hopes of being able to play closer to home and his father, who has cancer. Now he has to sit out a year.

sounds like he has some time to spend with his sick dad. isn't that why he transferred???
Posted by bigdawg7780
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:10 pm to
Way to be tone deaf NCAA nice job
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:10 pm to
Unless his dad wants to see him play
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:10 pm to
It's so fricked up that coaches can job hop with no repercussions. The NCAA is so out of touch.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:12 pm to
Just another case of the NCAA fricking over students.
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Unless his dad wants to see him play

shouldn't have gone to tulsa originally. i don't know about you, but my parents had seen me compete countless times before i left for college.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:20 pm to
It's stupid. It was a valid reason to allow the transfer when they didn't allow it to be used as just an easy out. But I guess because they're too dumb to regulate it, they're getting rid of it all together.
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:21 pm to
Im fine with it because it seemed every athlete who wanted to transfer was filing one and you knew they werent all real.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:29 pm to
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Im fine with it because it seemed every athlete who wanted to transfer was filing one and you knew they werent all real.
That's why you monitor them. That was the NCAA's job.

Sounds like laziness to me.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Just another case of the NCAA fricking over students.


Yep. Seen a thousand times.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:48 pm to
On a personal note, my family is very close with Jay Prosch and his family. I know it was a huge relief/blessing to him and Mrs Prosch that he was granted the hardship waiver, allowing him to transfer to Auburn. He was able to spend much more time with her during her waning days than he would have been able to had he still played for Illinois.

So it just seems cruel to prevent kids from having this option in rare occasion that it's needed.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by ehole
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:50 pm to
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He was able to spend much more time with her during her waning days than he would have been able to had he still played for Illinois


making them sit out a year only enhances this.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:54 pm to
Doesn't he have to practice with the team during the year "off"
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:56 pm to
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That's why you monitor them. That was the NCAA's job. Sounds like laziness to me.
They awarded waivers to 127 athletes out of 236 cases in '12-'13, so just over half of the applicants received a waiver.

I can see where this is a case by case issue - the NCAA has to research and investigate each case and determine which one's justified a waiver. The avaialibity of a waiver worked perfectly for the Prosch kid a couple of yrs ago at AU. I was glad to see him get to play ball before his mother passed away.

I wonder what criteria the NCAA used to determine eligibility? Is it for parents only, grandparents, legal guardians, sibilings? Is it for illness only and what kind of illness/at what stage of illness does it become a hardship on the student-athlete?

Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 1:56 pm to
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It's so fricked up that coaches can job hop with no repercussions. The NCAA is so out of touch.


there job is to do what the member schools want them to do, if they're doing the job badly, then whose fault does that make it?

Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 2:00 pm to
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I can see where this is a case by case issue


I have no objection to the case-by-case consideration.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 2:02 pm to
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there job is to do what the member schools want them to do, if they're doing the job badly, then whose fault does that make it?


That's as good of an argument as blaming all US citizens with the countless and varied shortcomings of the government.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 2:03 pm
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