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re: "College football's top 24 jobs" according to ESPN and fellow coaches..

Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:44 pm to
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I think after Saban leaves that Bama won't be as attractive of a job. He's just been too damn good, and the fan base won't accept anything less IMO. Of course they have the recognition and prestige, but I think the coach after Saban is going to really have his hands full trying to meet expectations.


That entire fanbase is going to have an aneurysm when their next coach is average
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Not surprised an aggie likes the list considering your ranking on said list is well ahead of your actual results






Not suprises by your response since A&M is ranked higher tan Auburn.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30921 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:45 pm to
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cas4t


Off topic....saw your post in OT lounge yesterday...Hope all is well with your family and sent prayers your way...
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:45 pm to
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Foley doesn't break the bank for new coaches;


This isn't the only approach to getting a coach. Meyer was the perfect hire. He didn't cost a fortune, but as soon as he won he was made the highest paid coach in football at the time. He gave Spurrier the largest contract of the time as well. Foley pays guys what they are worth, nothing wrong with that method.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:47 pm to
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While it will be tough to fill his shoes, they have resources galore. You're kidding yourself.



Ok, go look at previous coaches before Saban. They had an overwhelming amount of success with Bear, but it took them a long time to get back to that level again.

Go look at literally every powerhouse that's ever been. Nebraska, Texas, Notre Dame, Michigan...
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10835 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:47 pm to
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Not suprises by your response since A&M is ranked higher tan Auburn.

He's still mad A&M ruined their season.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:47 pm to
Texas has lost it's prestige in recent years. And the shitshow they exposed during their latest coaching search makes you wonder if they are even top 5 anymore.
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:47 pm to
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A&M is not the 11th best coaching job in the country


Where would you put us? 23rd?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:48 pm to
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Off topic....saw your post in OT lounge yesterday...Hope all is well with your family and sent prayers your way...



thanks hawgeye. Means a lot
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17331 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:49 pm to
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Not surprised an aggie likes the list considering your ranking on said list is well ahead of your actual results


Slightly ahead. We're about #15 in all time wins, but the current allocation of resources is NOTHING like it was even just 5 years ago, much less 40 years ago. We were such a small school LSU wouldn't even travel to play us; we had to play them in LA pretty much every year, or the occasional neutral site.

Given current resources, fanbase, and recruiting base, I think A&M is ranked fairly accurately.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37581 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:50 pm to
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I might rank South Carolina a little lower.


Why?

Because SCAR pays so well?

Because of the outstanding facilities?

Because of all the in-state talent that only keeps getting better?

Because SCAR is a member of the SEC?

Oh, wait, I know why. It's because of SCAR's disloyal, uninterested, fan base.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:51 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 10:43 am
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50213 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:51 pm to
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A&M is not the 11th best coaching job in the country



We have a top tier coaching salary, assistant coaching salary, stadium, fan support, recruiting base, conference(TV deal & exposure) and other facilities.

The only think we are lacking is the history of a Alabama, USC, or Notre Dame.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:52 pm to
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Because of all the in-state talent that only keeps getting better?


Doesn't matter much when that talent ends up at Clemson 75% of the time
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:54 pm to
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I read that to mean: if a coach had offers from every of these schools, here is the order in which he would pick. Money would factor heavily into that


If they had offers from all schools, I guarantee UF would not let money be an issue. If Bob Stoops wanted to come to UF, I guaranteed we would have paid him a top salary, money isn't an issue. We're paying McElwain $3.5 million/year on top his $7 million buyout while still owing $6 million to Muschamp. How many schools are going out and spending that kind of money just to get a new coach?
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:54 pm to
For the guy right after Saban yeah it's a death trap but if taking over for an average coach it's top 5 or 6 for sure. These things are so tough to quantify though
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:54 pm to
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The only think we are lacking is the history of a Alabama, USC, or Notre Dame.



you say this like it's such a small thing

I think aTm is a great job given you get to recruit out of Texas and play in the SEC. But you share a state that is also listed as the #1 job...

that will always make life hard on whoever is coaching at aTm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:55 pm to
I didn't realize you'd already said this

my bad
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
30921 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:55 pm to
Honestly, because of all the SEC money and facility race, I'd have every SEC program inside the top 25 besides Vanderbilt and Kentucky.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94905 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:58 pm to
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10. Notre Dame
The only one that doesnt belong to me. I dont even know if I have them in the top 20 anymore. It is all about ease in recruiting these days now that everyone is all in and on the national scene
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