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re: 2015 schedule predictions?
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:47 am to VADawg
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:47 am to VADawg
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You're sugarcoating it. That was an awful football team that beat UGA like a rented mule in a game the team had to have.
I don't think so. Our players couldn't accept that Florida was capable of beating UGA, no matter what the coaches said. The fans couldn't either. Florida got sky high for their 2nd biggest rival, and they did have a lot of talent on that roster.
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:56 am to WG_Dawg
So, it's ok with you that UGA always seems to find a way to screw up a couple of games every season? I'll admit, my post was meant to be taken at least a little sarcastic. But, there's nothing untrue about my stance regarding all the questionable letdown games...especially this past season.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:07 pm to gulfportdawg
It's more of who Georgia loses to and how they lose the games. The thing that's so maddening with this team is how they can beat Missouri 34-0 in Columbia and turn around and get slaughtered by an awful Florida team. They destroy Clemson and lose to a far worse South Carolina team. Destroy Auburn, lose to GT (who did have a great season but talent wise should not be on the same field as UGA).
It's the consistent inconsistency of this team every freaking year that gets us so frustrated.
It's the consistent inconsistency of this team every freaking year that gets us so frustrated.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 12:27 pm to VADawg
You seem to think that wins and losses should be perfectly predictable. That's never the case for any team. UGA averages 10 wins per year under Richt, and that has been very consistent. It has also been pretty consistent with how we recruit. We've beaten GT 12 of 14 and that's also consistent. But 100% is not going to happen, and the outliers are not going to always be when you expect.
Last year we had about a 3 loss team from the get go. The fact that the losses happened to USC, UF and GT wasn't some bolt out of the blue that indicates a huge coaching deficit. It could have been Arkansas, or Clemson, or Tennessee. But we were pretty much guaranteed to lose games because had talent issues at some important positions and serious depth/experience issues at some other, including RB where we expected to be rock solid. We started the year with a rag tag secondary and a QB who struggled to do much more than hand off and throw screens.
Last year we had about a 3 loss team from the get go. The fact that the losses happened to USC, UF and GT wasn't some bolt out of the blue that indicates a huge coaching deficit. It could have been Arkansas, or Clemson, or Tennessee. But we were pretty much guaranteed to lose games because had talent issues at some important positions and serious depth/experience issues at some other, including RB where we expected to be rock solid. We started the year with a rag tag secondary and a QB who struggled to do much more than hand off and throw screens.
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:01 pm to wdhalgren
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You seem to think that wins and losses should be perfectly predictable
No but games against bad teams should be. Georgia has basically become Oklahoma without the national title in 2000.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:11 pm to VADawg
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but games against bad teams should be. Georgia has basically become Oklahoma without the national title in 2000.
Bad and good are relative. I think you have an over-inflated view of how much talent UGA puts on the field relative to our competition. We recruit well, but never at the very top. And then we apply discipline that impacts our depth, including starters. That's uncommon for most of the SEC, where a large part of the attrition comes from culling players who can't make the two deep.
If Georgia has become Oklahoma, I'd say that's a major advance over what happened prior to Mark Richt. And Oklahoma would become less than Oklahoma if they played in the SEC, IMO.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:13 pm to gulfportdawg
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So, it's ok with you that UGA always seems to find a way to screw up a couple of games every season?
Can you show me where I said I'm "fine with it"? I want UGA to win every game from now until the universe ends. I want a national title every year. But to say that "the georgia way" is losing 2 games is just not very genuine. Very few teams each season have 1 loss or less.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:22 pm to WG_Dawg
I like it. You have us going to SECCG.
Park may very well be qb, he just needs to really commit
Park may very well be qb, he just needs to really commit
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:25 pm to Charlestondawg
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Park may very well be qb,
From what I've heard from people with the team, Park is absolutely in the thick of it. I just assumed it'd be Ramsey but apparently Park is going to make it a battle.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:28 pm to wdhalgren
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If Georgia has become Oklahoma
That wasn't supposed to be a compliment. Oklahoma has the most talent in that conference every single season (UGA doesn't, but it's the same idea) and yet they have lost to Baylor by a combined score of 89-26 in the last two years. That should never ever happen at Oklahoma. They have two or three games a year where they play way, way below their talent level and it costs them in a big way. That's the similarity. Georgia just doesn't lose those games in humiliating, blowout fashion as often as OU does.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 1:31 pm to wdhalgren
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Bad and good are relative. I think you have an over-inflated view of how much talent UGA puts on the field relative to our competition.
I think this is a good point. Unless we are playing Samford or something, the discrepancy in the quality of the athletes is rarely as big as we might think. But last year versus USC and GT - there are no two ways about it, we were putting a flat out better product on the field than those two teams.
Florida I can understand. I think at this point both UGA and UF can appreciate the fact that no matter what the records are, we are usually going to be pretty evenly matched. Although they have had the upper hand with blowouts the the last decade
Posted on 2/23/15 at 2:05 pm to VADawg
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That wasn't supposed to be a compliment.
Trust me, I take very little of what you post on this board as a compliment to UGA. So you're saying Oklahoma underperforms by losing to Baylor and Kansas St. Maybe so, and maybe that should seldom happen. But, the talent level in the SEC is more evenly distributed, and we simply do not have a massive talent advantage over most of our SEC rivals, even when they have a down year. On any given Saturday, if there's a reasonable level of player/coaching parity between two teams, then it's not uncommon to have an upset.
So we lost to South Carolina. Our defensive secondary was abysmal. We lost an entire two deep in the offseason, including three of starters. Steve Spurrier knows how to take advantage of that and Dylan Thompson had his highest qb rating of the season against us. It's not an excuse, just one of many reasons why we didn't match up well agaist a "bad" team. Those kinds of things happen when you don't have an overwhelming advantage in talent or experience. Yes, we might have won that game, but we could have also lost the Tennesse game for similar reasons. We had depth/talent flaws and it cost us some games.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:30 pm to WG_Dawg
Your initial reply implied that you were ok with it. And if CMR can get away with using the "Georgia Way" comment while losing a couple or more games per season lately, I can too. It'll be 10 years come December since our Dawgs have won the SECC. It's past time to win it again.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 3:36 pm to gulfportdawg
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Your initial reply implied that you were ok with it.
My first post saying "I'd take it" was in reply to the OP, which has us winning the SEC title and going to the playoffs. You saying you wouldn't take that?
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if CMR can get away with using the "Georgia Way" comment while losing a couple or more games per season lately, I can too.
You said it as derogatory, implying that simply losing is "the georgia way". Surely you realize that when richt uses that particular phrase it's about the way the program handles itself and how they do things, it has nothing to do with losing games.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:03 am to WG_Dawg
Yes, it was derogatory, but still true. Would I be happy with an SECC? Who wouldn't? I still say at least 2 losses in the 2015 season. And, I'm being serious.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:59 am to gulfportdawg
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So, it's ok with you that UGA always seems to find a way to screw up a couple of games every season?
No. But I can't name any teams that don't ever have let down games. And usually they have them every year. Sometimes they win those letdown games...sometimes they lose them. (Alabama vs Arkansas last season. Ohio State vs Va. Tech.) We can go on and on. Almost every team (if not every team) has letdown games.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 9:20 am to ATLdawg25
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But last year versus USC and GT - there are no two ways about it, we were putting a flat out better product on the field than those two teams.
Not sure why you would say that about GT. They had a pretty darn good football team. now, if you mean we had better recruiting classes? maybe. but their talent fit their scheme very well, and that elevated their talents.
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Florida I can understand
Actually, Florida is the one I had a harder time understanding. We normally played pretty well against the run. And, when they came out and showed they were going to run we did not make adjustments to stop the run. Yes, Florida has a lot of talent on their team, but they were, as a whole, poorly coached.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:21 pm to DawgsLife
Based on history, here are my predictions:
Beat a really good team (Bama).
Play nailbiters against Vanderbilt and UTK. We will lose to one of those teams.
Lose to Florida.
Tech will have a great season and be favored to beat as home, but they won't.
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Beat a really good team (Bama).
Play nailbiters against Vanderbilt and UTK. We will lose to one of those teams.
Lose to Florida.
Tech will have a great season and be favored to beat as home, but they won't.
9-3
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:29 pm to FinleyStreet
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Play nailbiters against Vanderbilt and UTK. We will lose to one of those teams.
I've got a hundy that says this won't happen.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 2:58 pm to SICEMDAWGS11
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Losses to Tennessee and Auburn
Losses to Tennessee and Auburn
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