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It's that time of year again we all agree stars matter very little
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:09 pm
But getting players that fit a coaches scheme and player development matter a lot.
There's really no denying this. 17-0, 30-0, etc stand as proof.
There's really no denying this. 17-0, 30-0, etc stand as proof.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:10 pm to hawgfaninc
No players could possibly fit into anything of Bert's
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:10 pm to hawgfaninc
This is the kind of thing teams that go 7-6 say
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Counterpoint
86-17 overall
50-11 SEC
6 BCS bowls
3 SEC Titles
3 National Titles
5 stars bia
86-17 overall
50-11 SEC
6 BCS bowls
3 SEC Titles
3 National Titles
5 stars bia
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:12 pm to beaver
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No players could possibly fit into anything of Bert's
Especially given his svelte appearance of late.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Counterpoint
86-17 overall
50-11 SEC
6 BCS bowls
3 SEC Titles
3 National Titles
5 stars bia
clear evidence stars are totally bogus...
oh wait... we has stars now?????
YEA!!!! FUKIN STARZ WROCK!!!!!!
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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This is the kind of thing teams that go 7-6 say
Missouri went 11-3 and won the east with a team made up mostly of 3 stars
Your argument is invalid
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:19 pm to hawgfaninc
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Missouri went 11-3 and won the east with a team made up mostly of 3 stars
Your argument is invalid
And then lost to a team full of 5-stars by 30 points in the SEC Title game. The one that has won 3 SECT, 3 Natl Titles and 90% of their games the last 7 years.
Which one has mostly 3 stars?
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:19 pm to hawgfaninc
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Missouri went 11-3 and won the east with a team made up mostly of 3 stars
Your argument is invalid
Then why are the teams you see year in and year out in the top 10, have top 10 classes every February? Coincidence?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I'll hang up and listen.
won't matter, once they've drank enough koolaid to convince themselves "stars don't matter", they aren't coming back.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:26 pm to hawgfaninc
Stars do matter to a certain extent. Ole Miss wouldn't be winning as much as we are had we not recruited like we have been the last several years. But I do agree. If you get a three star kid that fits your system, take him over a talented five star that you'd have to make adjust to your system.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:26 pm to Jagd Tiger
There are a few teams that do an incredible job of taking underrated talent and developing them into a group that consistently wins a lot of games : TCU, Kansas State, Missouri, Michigan State, Wisconsin........but those teams almost never win titles. And, 80% of the top 10 teams are also top 15 in recruiting. Anyone arguing otherwise is blind.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:27 pm to beaver
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No players could possibly fit into anything of Bert's
I beg to differ, I bet you could fit 3 or 4 lineman into in pants.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:28 pm to hawgfaninc
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stars matter very little
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Arkansas fan
seems legit.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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This is the kind of thing teams that go 7-6 say
you beat us by one point big boy, does that mean Saban can't develop talent and is just a good recruiter? Oh I know the answer your players didn't play up to their potential yet another, in the roledex of excuses, for bama
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:31 pm to swinetime
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you beat us by one point big boy, does that mean Saban can't develop talent and is just a good recruiter? Oh I know the answer your players didn't play up to their potential yet another, in the roledex of excuses, for bama
I award you one moral victory. Congratulations.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:32 pm to swinetime
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you beat us by one point big boy, does that mean Saban can't develop talent and is just a good recruiter? Oh I know the answer your players didn't play up to their potential yet another, in the roledex of excuses, for bama
We won...........why would I make an excuse?
We win 90% of our games, win titles and place tons of kids in the NFL. That's because we sign great athletes.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:32 pm to hawgfaninc
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we all agree stars matter very little
But getting players that fit a coaches scheme and player development matter a lot.
Agreed. I think most rating sites would have concerns about a 500 lb. OLs mobility, but it fits right in at Arky.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:33 pm to hawgfaninc
I have never been convinced stars matter at the end of the day. What does matter is player development once getting on campus. Stars measure intangibles and players potential, that is it. No way to gauge motivation or heart. You give me a guy like Jacob Hester all day long
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:33 pm to hawgfaninc
How many BCS Championships have been won by teams that that did not average Top 10 recruiting classes over an extended period of time?
Zero
Zero
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