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re: Potential new Defensive Coordinator?

Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:15 pm to
It depends on the type of defensive mindset the coordinator has. Some coordinators may argue the exact opposite. If your line can create disruption, it will lead to hurry-ups and off balance throws, which can help the secondary.
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 1:19 pm to
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It depends on the type of defensive mindset the coordinator has. Some coordinators may argue the exact opposite. If your line can create disruption, it will lead to hurry-ups and off balance throws, which can help the secondary.


That's fine and I concur, but which is more likely in the short-term (and so should be the priority)? Getting 4 in place who can help, or 7?

I say hire a DC whose specialty is the secondary. Recruit like crazy for all 11 positions obviously, but get the DB's on track ASAP.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 10/25/14 at 2:42 pm to
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I say hire a DC whose specialty is the secondary. Recruit like crazy for all 11 positions obviously, but get the DB's on track ASAP.

I forgot who, but someone was arguing here that the next DC should also be in charge of the Linebackers due to seeing a historical correlation of good teams having a DC also coaching LB. And looking around the NCAA, this myth does carry some truth to it.

All I know is that this bend but don't break defense mentality is not the way to go. With the offense that we have (or are supposed to have ), our team should always expect for opponents to open up their playbook and go full steam on us. Not strategically good since we are expected to give up shortyard plays and in exchange we should theoretically prevent huge plays (see how well thats working for us at the end ). My personal belief is that a good defense is a confident defense and we can't build confidence if we allow our defense to bend.
Posted by derSturm37
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:39 am to
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All I know is that this bend but don't break defense mentality is not the way to go.


I couldn't agree more. It's like playing a Prevent Defense all the time. Right or wrong I HATE a Prevent Defense.

(And never mind that it hasn't prevented ANYTHING).

This is going to sound like the understatement of the century, but our offense isn't anything special anymore. They've figured it out. Whilst our defensive braintrust hasn't figured out ANYTHING the rest of the conference has caught up to our "offense". Half of them are running it (and all of these are running it BETTER).

I remember losing to Florida State 10-2 in the Cotton Bowl. We couldn't buy an offensive touchdown in those days. We'd have quarterbacks who couldn't run OR throw, and nary a noteworthy receiver in the program. I miss those days. Give me a DEFENSE and 11 effeminate midgets on offense and I'd be happier than I have been since Sumlin arrived. Seriously.
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:58 am to
Think about if Claiborne, golden, and an Hilliard were all available.
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 7:17 am to
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#BlackQbU Kevin Murray, Reggie McNeal, Jerrod Johnson, Johnny Manziel, Kenny Hill, Kyler Murray



Posted by Houston Summit
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 7:16 pm to
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I think we should keep Hagen. I've seen improvement in our LBs, we're just young.


Posted by TexasAg13
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 7:23 pm to
CGSC didn't take the bait
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 7:24 pm
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 8:06 pm to
Dominant teams are built from the line out. If we want to Dominate we need to have maulers and attackers on both lines and then the backs and Linebackers need to be aggressive downhill players and then the receivers and secondary need to be fast ball playing guys. It all starts with the lines though. Without good to great play from them all schemes breakdown.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Houston Summit
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 9:53 pm to
well now it looks like I'm the fool
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:30 pm to
The only coordinator who might be retained when Sny_er is fired is Price.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 10:45 pm to
Agree wholeheartedly.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 11:57 pm to
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Dominant teams are built from the line out.

In my opinion, our DL is the only improved group in our entire team this season. And my optimistic side says that Price will keep improving and will eventually have a top notch line. Now I didn't watch the Alabama game (honest to god), but in the Ole Miss game, Freeze was running east-west and respecting our DL. He seemed to be attacking the flats and forcing our linebackers and DBs to tackle his sideways run-attack since he wasn't getting much from running up the middle.

Having said that, I have a question for you (and t-bird since you both agree) If you truly believe dominant DLs creste great defense and seeing how improved our DL is, are you willing to give Snyder 1 more year? I'm not saying I agree/disagree with DL being the heart of the D, just curious.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:12 am to
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If you truly believe dominant DLs creste great defense and seeing how improved our DL is, are you willing to give Snyder 1 more year? I'm not saying I agree/disagree with DL being the heart of the D, just curious.


I'm in the camp that tends to err on the side of allowing a coaching staff to establish their culture over multiple years, for better or for worse. In my humble opinion, we've seen Snyder's defense be solid enough to net us wins/keep us in games with enough senior buy-in and leadership. Thanks to off-the field troubles, graduations/early departures, and general youth, we haven't had that in the past two seasons. Maybe that shows he's not what we need to take advantage of our talent, or maybe he needs a year of actual continuity for it to gel as a complete unit, but I say give him the rest of this year and the start of 2015.

And that better be a damn short leash. This ain't the year for a midseason ouster. Next season, though, all bets are off.
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 5:34 am to
I dont think he is the guy. His scheme is too passive. I fall in the camp that finesse passive schemes have the habit of breaking down too easily. I like Snyder i think he is a helluva guy. But i think our units both offense and dedense need to dictate the terms of engagement more often than reacting to what is being done.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 5:36 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 6:13 am to
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But i think our units both offense and dedense need to dictate the terms of engagement more often than reacting to what is being done.


I agree, and if I had to pick one thing on defense that's disappointed me more than our continued incompetence at tackling, it would be how lax we are when "manned up" in pass coverage. I'll never understand how on 3rd and 6, our corners are giving 9-10 yards of cushion.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:19 pm to
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I'll never understand how on 3rd and 6, our corners are giving 9-10 yards of cushion.


Bend but don't break.
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 6:29 pm to
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I'll never understand how on 3rd and 6, our corners are giving 9-10 yards of cushion.


I get so mad about this. It would be one thing if our players kept the fricking guy in front of them, but they are still getting burned deep even with a 10 yrd cushion.

WTF do you have to lose? You look like shite and everyone thinks you are shite. Take a goddamn chance.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:22 pm to
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It would be one thing if our players kept the fricking guy in front of them, but they are still getting burned deep even with a 10 yrd cushion.

WTF do you have to lose? You look like shite and everyone thinks you are shite. Take a goddamn chance.


Precisely
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:37 pm to
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I just want my defense fixed damn it.


The last time A&M had a great defense the HUNH didn't exist. I think D more than O takes talent to execute and we lack that.

Honestly the D is better than I expected given our offseason. It's the O that is WAY behind. We need to clean out our offensive staff. O line looks like crap without Sherm's players. Our QB development is crap. Our WRs outside of Speedy and a senior suck. Oh and our RBs are playing at one half their combined talent level (I think the crappy O line is at fault). It's a disaster.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 11:38 pm
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