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re: Should McDonalds employees get paid $15.00 an hour?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:41 pm to TigerPanzer
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:41 pm to TigerPanzer
ahh I see you're tracking. Good deal.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:58 pm to Duke
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The employees should have every right to collectively bargain for the best wage they can get.
Unfortunately for them, there will be plenty of folks willing to undercut them. The downturn in the economy recently sucks for older people who were forced down to jobs at fast food places to cut out a living, but it doesn't mean a franchise owner trying to cut out a profit should raise wages for no reason.
Correct.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:30 pm to Duke
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So yes, I do think companies tend to overpay CEOs.
corporations were formed in the incubator of ancient piracy as they were the basis for modern corporation. The captain only got a double share and could be removed at any time by the majority vote of the crew.
Imagine if those rules still applied to modern corporate america.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 3:19 pm to Cheese Grits
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Rich get richer by getting rid of humans except one day how will the humans have jobs to earn money to buy stuff.
Get rid of the monetary system and you won't have this problem.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 3:43 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Get rid of the monetary system and you won't have this problem.
Right because concentrations of wealth among the few weren't a problem until reserve banking. The late 1800s were a regular worker's paradise.
The battle between capital and labor has been a constant since the dawn of civilization.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:37 pm to disagreeber
Fast food restaurants will be automated and computer run within the next 10 years.. Raising the minimum wage will only expedite that process.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:51 pm to disagreeber
They don't deserve 15 an hour and, I haven't read the entire thread but, I'm assuming nobody else intelligent enough to access the internet thinks they do either.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:02 am to skirpnasty
No fricking way.
And "In Time" was definitely an awesome movie even though it ripped off "The hunger games" a little bit----or was it the other way around?
But yeah, there's no way you pay them that much. I DO believe in annual raises and merit raises for doing a good job and being committed to a company...moving up the ladder and so forth but you don't really see those things anymore. It's like "yearly review time.... here's your quarter....NEXT!"
And "In Time" was definitely an awesome movie even though it ripped off "The hunger games" a little bit----or was it the other way around?
But yeah, there's no way you pay them that much. I DO believe in annual raises and merit raises for doing a good job and being committed to a company...moving up the ladder and so forth but you don't really see those things anymore. It's like "yearly review time.... here's your quarter....NEXT!"
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:02 am to skirpnasty
If you want a higher paying job, there's more effective ways to earn it instead of bitching. Some jobs are underpaying though.... although fast food workers isn't one.
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 4:53 am to Cheese Grits
I had some pretty awful summer jobs back in the day, that were probably around the same level of working at mcdonalds. If you told me I deserved to be paid $15.00 an hour, I'd have laughed at you. It's ridiculous.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 6:08 am to disagreeber
No
Posted on 10/23/14 at 6:59 am to deltaland
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Don't need Government to mandate wages
Sorry. No sale.
If there were no government mandated wage floor they wouldn't be getting the 7-8 and hour they do now.
The core problem is the mass exodus of manufacturing that took place over the last 20+ years. And it's at the root of the Occupy Movement and Ferguson unrest.
Forty years ago under-educated dipshits could fall into a livable wage job at a car plant or in some other kind of fabrication or manufacturing job.
Unfettered free trade by the United States only allowed the robber barons of industry to exploit the green fields of Asian peasants and the globalization of the world economy began - waved in for landing by both parties.
Now all that's left for the undereducated and disenfranchised is McDonald's and the like.
So you can either pay them via a livable wage job or pay them via welfare and disability fraud.
Bring manufacturing back, erect tit-for-tat barriers to China trade here, and a whole host of problems would be fixed.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 7:04 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:14 am to disagreeber
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:35 am to Mizz-SEC
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So you can either pay them via a livable wage job or pay them via welfare and disability fraud.
Bring manufacturing back, erect tit-for-tat barriers to China trade here, and a whole host of problems would be fixed.
I might add that at least in the old days lower paying jobs were filled by people who were at least proud of the work they did. Kids today all think they are too good to get their hands dirty and actually work for a living.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:49 am to Cheese Grits
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I might add that at least in the old days lower paying jobs were filled by people who were at least proud of the work they did. Kids today all think they are too good to get their hands dirty and actually work for a living.
Yep. At my second job, as a loader/unloader for a large, multinational package delivery service, we don't get paid a lot, but get paid well for the work we do, compared to my first full-time job doing similar work at Wal-Mart for $5.00 an hour.
Most of these kids that come in there to work just leisurely go through the motions and act like it's as fast as they can go.
Most people nowadays just put no effort into their jobs.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:07 am to disagreeber
I have said this on here before, it is my opinion that paying employees better at places like McDonalds would help them keep better employees. and make their stores run better.
The way it is now, managers and assistant managers spend most of their time hiring and training new employees instead of actually running the store.
Fewer well trained people could actually run the store. and you would get better service as well.
The way it is now, managers and assistant managers spend most of their time hiring and training new employees instead of actually running the store.
Fewer well trained people could actually run the store. and you would get better service as well.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:09 am to auggie
How much training is really involved in learning to work at McDonalds?
I do agree with your point in theory though. Pay the employees you want to keep better, don't force a higher wage for all.
I do agree with your point in theory though. Pay the employees you want to keep better, don't force a higher wage for all.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:15 am to cokebottleag
Well, if it is known that pay is decent, you actually will attract a better pool of applicants to choose from.
There's not a lot of training involved, but I think it takes a little while for an employee in that environment, to get where they are running in a kind of automatic mode, instead of needing to think about everything.
There's not a lot of training involved, but I think it takes a little while for an employee in that environment, to get where they are running in a kind of automatic mode, instead of needing to think about everything.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:54 am to Carolina_Girl
I think we should just shut down McDonalds. It's so bad for society.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:14 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Bring manufacturing back, erect tit-for-tat barriers to China trade here, and a whole host of problems would be fixed.
That ship has sailed and long since has been out of sight.
Bringing back simple consumer good manufacturing to the United States would drive the price of all consumer goods up. What would we do without being able to buy all of that cheap shite we love?
In all seriousness, manufacturing will start flowing back into America as global demand grows for higher quality and specialized goods. We have a well educated and skilled workforce relative to most of the world (that's not to say we can't do much better). We have a very stable society with good infrastructure,access to cheap energy and home to the greatest consumer base on earth. I believe this will happen eventually, but we're currently watching the reshuffle of the global economy because of the game-changing jumps in technology and communication. The short term (like 20-30 years likely) sees the less skilled American workers getting squeezed by robots and the cheap wages overseas.
Certainly there's a crazy amount of variables that will alter the course. I just see the engine of technology doing way more good for the global economy but the path forward isn't always going to be smooth.
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So you can either pay them via a livable wage job or pay them via welfare and disability fraud.
This is accurate. Hell you see it with the growing welfare and especially SS disability spending.
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