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I think I found the problem with the A&M defense

Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:04 pm
There's no identity.

If you look through the majority of the defenses in the SEC, all of the top defenses have a coordinator who also coaches a specific position group.

With the exception of Georgia, whose DC is also the secondary coach, all of the top defenses in the SEC have a DC who is also the coach of the linebackers.

These defenses are focused on the linebackers and the other position groups are recruited and built in order to complement that group. Georgia's defense is built around the secondary.

A&M's defense has a defensive line coach, a linebackers coach, and a defensive backs coach as well as a defensive coordinator. THAT IS UNNECESSARY.

If they are going to establish the defensive line as the identity of the defense (since that seems to be the best group right now) then fire Snyder, promote Price to interim DC and build a 5-2 defense around that line.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24936 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:05 pm to
If you think there is a quick fix for your defense you are in for some disappointment.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80231 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

If you think there is a quick fix for your defense you are in for some disappointment.


There isn't. Long-term the defense must have an identity which it really hasn't since Slocum, whose defensive coordinators also coached the linebackers. (he coached the linebackers while the DC)
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:07 pm to
I've never seen anything like it....Bama could have ran any play they wanted and scored. It was almost unreal.........was it real?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by TexasAg13
San Antonio de Béxar
Member since Jul 2013
5815 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Bama could have ran any play they wanted and scored


This. Kiffin could have literally closed his eyes, put his finger on a play, and there was a 50% chance yall were scoring.
Posted by TheNorthPlace
Listen to Big KRIT
Member since Dec 2012
1302 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:11 pm to
Kevin Sumlin has never had anything resembling a defense, and he never will. I'm sorry
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:11 pm to
so is 'swag' only the identity of the coach, not the team?
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:28 pm to
I thinking coaching is your problem. But it's not just what you think.

Remember all that johnny off field issues and how most felt that no matter what he did, he was above discipline?

That's called a lack of control and discipline. You coaches were the issue. See Winston...

Your HC does not have his team under control.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79177 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Remember all that johnny off field issues and how most felt that no matter what he did, he was above discipline?


Or picking and choosing which games to suspend his players (see LA Tech last season).

Sumlin may have swag, but he's been exposed on several occasions. Surprising he hasn't canned the DC yet after this debacle. It's 3 years of porous defense.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145171 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:35 pm to
The next thing hell do is institute team voting
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Or picking and choosing which games to suspend his players (see LA Tech last season).



Exactly



quote:

Sumlin may have swag,



It's hard to regain discipline once you give it up. All players are going to be looking at the fact that JM did what he wanted to do and got away with it.

That moves into workouts, pushing to be better and just giving up.

I watch the KH laughing on the sidelines after throwing a pick. I have seen him do that many ties and is always joking around.

That's an issue.



Just my opinion, but let him go, and get somebody else in before your talent pool drops.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:07 pm to
The problem is that programs with these wide open offenses usually have horrible defenses. I can offer no explanation for that unless the coaches only recruit one side of the ball. Texas Tech, Baylor, Texas AM are prime examples of this.
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:11 pm to
Fire Sumlin
Hire Boom
???
Profit
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Or picking and choosing which games to suspend his players (see LA Tech last season).


Of all the discipline issues I see with A&M and the way Sumlin handles them, this has got to be the absolute bottom of the barrel of things that concern me.

The fact that people can get arrested MULTIPLE times and need to be facing 25 to life before they are removed from the team is a problem, not a delayed suspension due to a technicality.
Posted by Ishmael
Member since Oct 2014
865 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:12 pm to
expected to open this thread and see one word "everything"
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Fire Sumlin
Hire Boom
???
Profit


I hope the ??? part includes these two steps

1.) Fire Boom
2.) Hire a good coach
Posted by AU_RX
City of St George
Member since May 2005
4250 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

There's no identity.


That's because they don't release the identities of rape victims.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Kevin Sumlin has never had anything resembling a defense, and he never will. I'm sorry


2012 resembled a good defense.
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:24 pm to
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