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Brice Ramsey and the QBs
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:41 am
He hit the field and has been used. There's no taking it back. What does his play time say to you about where Richt's head is with him? He was put in before Bauta even.
I gotta say... my personal preference and feeling of comfort when I see him with the ball over Mason or Bauta... I would rather he just be the guy.
I know a lot of you are big Mason fans but Brice looks better in the pocket IMO. I'll go a step further and say I would rather see Bauta too. We already have a loaded backfield and the addition of a dual threat would give the opposing defense and coaches something else to worry about.
The grumblings with Park (which SUCKS because I really liked him when I saw him play in HS) point to him being backup over the next three seasons. So is Brice going to be the man or is it Bauta the next coupld years? And if he is did we just burn a year off of him for one game?
I gotta say... my personal preference and feeling of comfort when I see him with the ball over Mason or Bauta... I would rather he just be the guy.
I know a lot of you are big Mason fans but Brice looks better in the pocket IMO. I'll go a step further and say I would rather see Bauta too. We already have a loaded backfield and the addition of a dual threat would give the opposing defense and coaches something else to worry about.
The grumblings with Park (which SUCKS because I really liked him when I saw him play in HS) point to him being backup over the next three seasons. So is Brice going to be the man or is it Bauta the next coupld years? And if he is did we just burn a year off of him for one game?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:45 am to Charlestondawg
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Brice looks better in the pocket IMO
His career consists of playing against one of the worst teams in America.
If we want to win ballgames, Mason is our best bet.
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And if he is did we just burn a year off of him for one game?
He's already redshirted, we didn't "burn" anything. It was nice to get him some game reps. He'll get a ton of reps against chareston southern too.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:51 am to Charlestondawg
I don't think you can really say you'd prefer Ramsey over Mason based off of 3-4 series vs Troy.
I'll agree that he does have a better arm. You could say he almost provides a better chance to score. But this is all based off of what? I think this is a lot of what Clemson had with Watson and Stoudt. They chose Stoudt because his highs may not be as high as Watson's but his lows likely wouldn't be on part with a true freshman's lows. Main difference is, though, that Watson is a fricking outlier and the dude is incredible and they needed to start him.
Reason I bring that up because I think it's the same here at UGA except this: Mason is better than Stoudt and Ramsey isn't Deshaun Watson. Does Mason have a cannon? Nah. Does Ramsey likely have the grasp and poise of Mason? I can't imagine he does. Mason provides a more consistent QB and when you have the RB corp we have you don't always want to have a wildcard QB back there. We'll have enough of that next year.
I'll concede this. Ramsey played better (VS FRIGGIN TROY, THOUGH) than I thought. If he can get polished, maybe visit Mr Whitfield this summer) then he can be a damn fine QB for us. I personally think he fits Bobo's mold better than Bauta and while I am with K9 on the Bautasaurus Rex Train I just don't think he has the skill set Bobo wants. We have seen Bobo and the offense try to adapt to more of a manager QB with more emphasis on the run. I don't really wanna see the gears in their collective heads creak trying to create an offense more conducive to Bauta's skill set.
I'll agree that he does have a better arm. You could say he almost provides a better chance to score. But this is all based off of what? I think this is a lot of what Clemson had with Watson and Stoudt. They chose Stoudt because his highs may not be as high as Watson's but his lows likely wouldn't be on part with a true freshman's lows. Main difference is, though, that Watson is a fricking outlier and the dude is incredible and they needed to start him.
Reason I bring that up because I think it's the same here at UGA except this: Mason is better than Stoudt and Ramsey isn't Deshaun Watson. Does Mason have a cannon? Nah. Does Ramsey likely have the grasp and poise of Mason? I can't imagine he does. Mason provides a more consistent QB and when you have the RB corp we have you don't always want to have a wildcard QB back there. We'll have enough of that next year.
I'll concede this. Ramsey played better (VS FRIGGIN TROY, THOUGH) than I thought. If he can get polished, maybe visit Mr Whitfield this summer) then he can be a damn fine QB for us. I personally think he fits Bobo's mold better than Bauta and while I am with K9 on the Bautasaurus Rex Train I just don't think he has the skill set Bobo wants. We have seen Bobo and the offense try to adapt to more of a manager QB with more emphasis on the run. I don't really wanna see the gears in their collective heads creak trying to create an offense more conducive to Bauta's skill set.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:52 am to WG_Dawg
He wasn't as accurate as Mason and he clearly does not see the fields as well. He has a way to go, but he is not near the total QB that Mason is.... But whatever....
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:55 am to Peter Buck
Brice looked to me somewhat similar to stafford in his first few games. He's got a huge arm just needs to corral it. He threw one ball directly to a troy defender where a UGA player wasn't anywhere within 15 yards. But he's a freshman, that's bound to happen.
You can tell he has the potential to be real solid for us eventually, and he probably will be. But 2014 isn't his time.
You can tell he has the potential to be real solid for us eventually, and he probably will be. But 2014 isn't his time.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:55 am to Peter Buck
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He wasn't as accurate as Mason and he clearly does not see the fields as well. He has a way to go, but he is not near the total QB that Mason is.... But whatever....
I know..I agree.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:56 am to WG_Dawg
He's friggin super raw. I had a few buddies from my dark days at school up north text me that UGA is dumb and should start Ramsey. Had some dork UGA fans say the same. No one seems to realize the kid is still learning how to be a pro-style QB let alone learn the offense.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:57 am to gatorhata9
I was using Spring game and HS as a reference as well but you're right, he hasn't been officially cherry popped SEC yet.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:57 am to Damn Good Dawg
The backup QB is always the most popular player on the team.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:00 am to Damn Good Dawg
Everyone always loves the back-up QB...
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:00 am to WG_Dawg
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The backup QB is always the most popular player on the team.
I said in the gamethread that now we can see the crowd who wanted Mason over Murray now switch to Ramsey over Mason
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charleston
Well, for one, his spring game didn't show that much IMO. Also, to note, it was the spring game. Second, basing it off his HS career? Dude ran the wing t
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:03 am to Charlestondawg
DGD, you need to write for a sports blog or something. You got a way with words where average sports fans can understand your point. I zone out sometimes when I read some of these ESPN, SI, etc. articles when they reference the double mule combine from Frank Prestigio's defense of '48. I'm like... whu?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:03 am to Charlestondawg
Ramsey definitely has some arm talent but he would get picked a couple of times a game minimum if we threw him in this year. He needs more time to develop and learn the playbook.
I think Mason gives us a better chance of winning this year than Ramsey or Bauta. I do think we should draw up some designed option plays with Bauta though.
I think Mason gives us a better chance of winning this year than Ramsey or Bauta. I do think we should draw up some designed option plays with Bauta though.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:07 am to Damn Good Dawg
he ran a modified Wing T that had a shite ton of passing game in it...i know...i watched every game from the stands....Brice may not be there yet, but he will be....and he will have a better career than Mason barring a NC this year cause he is a better qb...
my biggest take away...is that he can make the throws that Mason can't...and for thos ethat say mason is a "gunsliger"...show me some evidence...he has minimal downfield threat....do i want BR to be thst sterter this season...no...but do i think he will start over Bauta and Park...damn right he will and should...cause he is better
my biggest take away...is that he can make the throws that Mason can't...and for thos ethat say mason is a "gunsliger"...show me some evidence...he has minimal downfield threat....do i want BR to be thst sterter this season...no...but do i think he will start over Bauta and Park...damn right he will and should...cause he is better
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:07 am to Charlestondawg
Well, damn, thanks man
That point will be hotly contested on here more often than not but I appreciate it. I kinda wanna start a blog like GoodBullHuting for A&M, the KeyPlay for VT, and the one Nebraska has. Kind of a humorous slant. Had a few people tell me I should write a blog but that may be more because they're tired of hearing me talk about Georgia and want me to get another outlet
You hear that durden? We need to blog, brah.
That point will be hotly contested on here more often than not but I appreciate it. I kinda wanna start a blog like GoodBullHuting for A&M, the KeyPlay for VT, and the one Nebraska has. Kind of a humorous slant. Had a few people tell me I should write a blog but that may be more because they're tired of hearing me talk about Georgia and want me to get another outlet
You hear that durden? We need to blog, brah.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:10 am to SthGADawg
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he ran a modified Wing T that had a shite ton of passing game in it...i know...i watched every game from the stands....Brice may not be there yet, but he will be....and he will have a better career than Mason barring a NC this year cause he is a better qb...
I know mama Ramsey was all up Camden County's arse about it
And he may end up being better than Mason one day, I think we all see he is more talented, but he isn't the better QB for UGA right now. I think you'll agree.
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my biggest take away...is that he can make the throws that Mason can't...and for thos ethat say mason is a "gunsliger"...show me some evidence...he has minimal downfield threat....do i want BR to be thst sterter this season...no...but do i think he will start over Bauta and Park...damn right he will and should...cause he is better
Idk if anyone thinks Mason is a gunslinger. Dude is way more about timing and rhythm.
It's like I said, Ramsey is higher risk/reward than Mason. Mason is just more consistent, a leader, and will help more often than hurt ya.
As for the future, well, I have moved into agreeing that Ramsey will be the guy and then Eason but Ramsey still has a long way to go in my very unprofessional opinion. Really would like to see him to go a lot of QB camps this offseason.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:13 am to Charlestondawg
Ramsey looked good and is probably better suited to Richt's pro-style offense but I prefer Bauta due to outside options available with a dual-threat QB. Put this way, against better defenses if they stuff your run and play tight coverage on your receivers, you stand a much better chance of moving the ball with outside options. It puts huge pressure on the defense when a QB can run effectively. A simple roll-out becomes a complex dilemma of either coming up to stop the QB leaving receivers open behind you or allowing the QB to get good yardage.
This is what is missing from our offense evident in championship offenses and make no mistake this is going to become more prevalent in the NFL. You need only look at the success of the Sea Hawks with Russell Wilson at the helm to confirm.
This is what is missing from our offense evident in championship offenses and make no mistake this is going to become more prevalent in the NFL. You need only look at the success of the Sea Hawks with Russell Wilson at the helm to confirm.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:14 am to Damn Good Dawg
That's what I was saying. Too many sports writers expect the readers, no matter how big a fan they are, to have quick access to stats from players years before when referencing current stats. And they think everyone knows who every player who played a certain position in the history of the team is.
"Ramsey is good but he's no Swankowski. "
"Who?"
"Come on man. Swankowski from the 1908 team! He was raw!"
"Ramsey is good but he's no Swankowski. "
"Who?"
"Come on man. Swankowski from the 1908 team! He was raw!"
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