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Ivan Maisel: Can SEC maintain dominance in playoff era?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:52 pm
https://espn.go.com/ncf/notebook/_/page/ConferencePerceptionProblems/conference-identity-crisis
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The Southeastern Conference has enjoyed an unprecedented run of success in the modern era of college football. Four SEC teams -- Florida, LSU, Alabama and Auburn -- combined to win seven consecutive BCS national championships, ending in January, when Auburn fell :13 short of lengthening the streak to eight.
Over the past eight seasons, the SEC has taken the lead in national titles, Heisman Trophy winners (four), NFL first-round draft choices (74). The league's fans are likewise ahead of the field in boastfulness (unlimited), self-regard (unrivaled) and vanity (ditto). That passion is reflected in the figures reports last week by the Collegiate Licensing Company, which listed five SEC schools among the top 10 in sales over the past year.
Even the league commissioner, the erudite attorney and Bartlett's devotee Mike Slive, last month cited the league's recent accomplishments and quoted Muhammad Ali, "It ain't bragging if you can back it up." Ali, of course, is a product of the SEC state of Kentucky.
The country has bought it. Five times during the seven-year championship streak, an SEC team made it into the BCS Championship Game by finishing No. 2 in the BCS standings. Why is that significant? When the poll voters and the computer jockeys who comprised the rating had to select one team from among several with similar records, they selected an SEC team nearly by default.
In all five cases, the SEC team validated the selection by winning the game.
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:54 pm to scrooster
These questions wouldn't have even been asked if Auburn would have just finished the damn job...
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:55 pm to scrooster
Collegiate Licensing Company top universities by sales ....
https://www.clc.com/News/Annual-Rankings-2013-14.aspx
1. Texas 26. Arizona State 51. Pittsburgh
2. Alabama 27. Arizona 52. East Carolina
3. Michigan 28. Washington 53. Rutgers
4. Notre Dame 29. Virginia Tech 54. Montana
5. Georgia 30. Duke 55. Boston College
6. Florida 31. Oregon State 56. Vanderbilt
7. LSU 32. Illinois 57. UCF
8. Florida State 33. Syracuse 58. Fresno State
9. Texas A&M 34. UCLA 59. Northwestern
10. North Carolina 35. Mississippi 60. Georgetown
11. Auburn 36. Minnesota 61. Wyoming
12. Oklahoma 37. Purdue 62. New Mexico
13. Nebraska 38. Stanford 63. Louisiana-Lafayette
14. Arkansas 39. Washington State 64. U.S. Military Academy
15. Wisconsin 40. Utah 65. Texas State
16. Tennessee 41. California 66. Nevada
17. South Carolina 42. Boise State 67. South Florida
18. Penn State 43. Maryland 68. Marshall
19. Missouri 44. Virginia 69. Wake Forest
20. West Virginia 45. TCU 70. James Madison
21. Kansas 46. Cincinnati 71. Montana State
22. Clemson 47. Connecticut 72. Delaware
23. Oklahoma State 48. BYU 73. Gonzaga
24. Louisville 49. Colorado 74. Boston University
25. Texas Tech 50. Georgia Tech 75. Villanova
https://www.clc.com/News/Annual-Rankings-2013-14.aspx
1. Texas 26. Arizona State 51. Pittsburgh
2. Alabama 27. Arizona 52. East Carolina
3. Michigan 28. Washington 53. Rutgers
4. Notre Dame 29. Virginia Tech 54. Montana
5. Georgia 30. Duke 55. Boston College
6. Florida 31. Oregon State 56. Vanderbilt
7. LSU 32. Illinois 57. UCF
8. Florida State 33. Syracuse 58. Fresno State
9. Texas A&M 34. UCLA 59. Northwestern
10. North Carolina 35. Mississippi 60. Georgetown
11. Auburn 36. Minnesota 61. Wyoming
12. Oklahoma 37. Purdue 62. New Mexico
13. Nebraska 38. Stanford 63. Louisiana-Lafayette
14. Arkansas 39. Washington State 64. U.S. Military Academy
15. Wisconsin 40. Utah 65. Texas State
16. Tennessee 41. California 66. Nevada
17. South Carolina 42. Boise State 67. South Florida
18. Penn State 43. Maryland 68. Marshall
19. Missouri 44. Virginia 69. Wake Forest
20. West Virginia 45. TCU 70. James Madison
21. Kansas 46. Cincinnati 71. Montana State
22. Clemson 47. Connecticut 72. Delaware
23. Oklahoma State 48. BYU 73. Gonzaga
24. Louisville 49. Colorado 74. Boston University
25. Texas Tech 50. Georgia Tech 75. Villanova
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:08 pm to 3andOut
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These questions wouldn't have even been asked if Auburn would have just finished the damn job...
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In a sport with a history that illustrates the impermanence of success, the SEC has signed a long-term lease on the penthouse. This season, as the housing at the top expands from two teams to four, SEC fans debate the odds that the league will be able to place two teams in the first national semifinals. The idea that the league would not put a team in the semifinals doesn't come up in polite conversation.
No one within the sound of Nick Saban's voice recalls that in the first eight seasons of the BCS's 16-year existence, six different conferences supplied champions. Or that in the 16 seasons prior to the BCS (1982-97), the SEC won exactly two national championships -- Alabama in 1992 and Florida in 1996.
But there is every possibility that Auburn's gallant loss to Florida State merely delayed the inevitable pull of gravity. There is evidence that the SEC has fallen back to the pack.
"Only one person can carry the ball at a time," Virginia coach Mike London said. "Right now Florida State and the ACC are enjoying carrying it. The SEC has carried the ball for a while here, and now they see what it's like when you don't have the ball."
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:17 pm to scrooster
Having less than 10 days to prepare for an Oregon, Auburn, A&M or an Ok St, will hurt teams like LSU, Bama and UF. You are going to have to be built for scoring and keeping up with the HUNH Offenses. The days of having 6 weeks to prepare for the NC are over.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:22 pm to Irons Puppet
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Having less than 10 days to prepare for an Oregon, Auburn, A&M or an Ok St, will hurt teams like LSU, Bama and UF. You are going to have to be built for scoring and keeping up with the HUNH Offenses. The days of having 6 weeks to prepare for the NC are over.
A&M and Okie State are not even in the conversation this year ... but I get what you are saying and you are correct.
The playoff does change the dynamic.
Still yet, staffs are used to scheming for different looks inside of a week during the regular season and good defenses can always adapt.
But I agree, offenses should have the advantage in the championship game ... which is what the NCAA wants. More offense makes for more exciting games for the viewers.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:25 pm to Irons Puppet
Oregon and Okie state don't have the talent to compete in rough stretches like the SEC. Their trench plays their RB's and Line are small, there defense can't stop power running a games. They are built upon the whole "if we score a lot of points and give up less points we look good"
Sure they have some high level talent, but they couldn't stand a chance.
Now oregon has a very good coaching staff and they could try to scheme their way around, but at the end of the day they don't have the horses and would be the 6th 7th, or 8th team in the SEC as opposed to the first second or third in the PAC
Sure they have some high level talent, but they couldn't stand a chance.
Now oregon has a very good coaching staff and they could try to scheme their way around, but at the end of the day they don't have the horses and would be the 6th 7th, or 8th team in the SEC as opposed to the first second or third in the PAC
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:27 pm to UnAnon
Does he ever mention UT winning the first BCS?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:30 pm to scrooster
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A&M and Okie State are not even in the conversation this year
I am not talking about this year, in the future as a whole.
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Still yet, staffs are used to scheming for different looks inside of a week during the regular season and good defenses can always adapt
They prep for those teams in the summer, when they know who is on their schedule. Look what happened to Missouri and SC, when they had a week to prepare for AU in the SECCG.
It will be more apparent when/if they expand to an 8 team playoff.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:37 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Does he ever mention UT winning the first BCS?
That was so long ago he probably deemed it irrelevant to the conversation. Imagine that.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:09 pm to scrooster
I think its kind of funny that Maisel is pointing to lack of QB depth as a reason the SEC might fall this year.
McElroy managed to do it in 09.
Cam managed to do it in 2010.
McCarron did it in 2011 and 2012.
3 of the past 4 title winners from the SEC before FSU last season started first year QBs.
Heck, even Matt Flynn won it in 07 a year after Jamarcus left.
McElroy managed to do it in 09.
Cam managed to do it in 2010.
McCarron did it in 2011 and 2012.
3 of the past 4 title winners from the SEC before FSU last season started first year QBs.
Heck, even Matt Flynn won it in 07 a year after Jamarcus left.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:16 pm to scrooster
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:27 pm to Irons Puppet
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It will be more apparent when/if they expand to an 8 team playoff.
Now, I do agree with that wholeheartedly. When it expands to an eight team playoff, that's when you'll see the offenses gain a major upper-hand due to lack of prep time between games.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:40 pm to 3andOut
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These questions wouldn't have even been asked if Auburn would have just finished the damn job...
It's unreasonable to expect the SEC to win the national championship EVERY SINGLE YEAR to prove it's the best conference.
Auburn struggled like hell in the SEC week in and week out while FSU steamrolled everyone they played.
And Auburn came out and went toe to toe with FSU.
That should tell you everything you need to know about the SEC.
Besides, like I said, the other country wants to make winning 100% of the time the standard of "proof" for the SEC, because they know it's a standard that can't be lived up to.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:54 pm to scrooster
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"Only one person can carry the ball at a time," Virginia coach Mike London said. "Right now Florida State and the ACC are enjoying carrying it."
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:30 pm to Irons Puppet
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Having less than 10 days to prepare for an Oregon, Auburn, A&M or an Ok St, will hurt teams like LSU, Bama and UF. You are going to have to be built for scoring and keeping up with the HUNH Offenses. The days of having 6 weeks to prepare for the NC are over.
Florida is a HUNH team.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:48 pm to scrooster
Even if the committee is pressured to take teams from four different conferences, it's still advantage SEC since chances are an 11-1 SEC team would kick the arse of any other conference's 11-1.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:32 pm to scrooster
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2. Alabama
Thanks to the millions of sidewalk Bama Walmarks customers.
Did I do that right?
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