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Pinkel Rustles Bert On Health Concerns: "I Think It's Fiction"
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:28 pm
Pinkel’s ‘Fiction’ Is Bielema’s ‘Reality’
Posted: 5:09 p.m. Wednesday, July 16, 2014
By Tim Tucker
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
HOOVER, Ala. — The debate about the safety risk of fast-paced offense in football resurfaced Wednesday at SEC Media Days.
Missouri coach Gary Pinkel dismissed as “fiction” the notion, argued by some of his fellow coaches, that hurry-up offense exposes players to increased injuries.
“We came from the Big 12. The Big 12 has been doing the fast-paced thing for the last seven years,” Pinkel said. “Never once in all those years in the fastest league … did I have my team doctor, my trainer, any of my coordinators walk into my office and say, ‘I’m concerned about the health of our football team.’
“I don’t buy the health issue in any way. … I think it’s fiction.”
A few hours later, Arkansas coach Bret Bielema, who came to the SEC from the Big Ten and has been outspoken about what he perceives as the safety risks of fast-paced offense, rejected Pinkel’s fiction characterization.
“I’m probably more of a reality-based movie guy more than fiction, I guess,” Bielema said. “I think I deal more in what I know, what I see, what I believe.
“Have I softened in my view of fast-paced offenses? … You’re asking me, have I softened my view on player safety? The answer would be no. …
“I firmly believe that, yes, our responsibility as coaches is player safety. However that comes about, whether it be a 10-second rule in the future, whether it be a substitution mandatory rule … I think the game is going to be a safer one because of it.”
Bielema also was asked about his relationship with Auburn coach Gus Malzahn, a leading proponent of fast offense.
“Gus runs an offensive style and philosophy that is completely opposite of what I believe in, but who can argue with his success?” Bielema said. “That makes me respect him even more.
“We’ve talked on the phone a couple different times about different issues. None of them have been player safety-related, I can assure you of that. … I can’t say that we’re breaking bread together and going to dinner when we can, but I’m not throwing bread at him.”
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:30 pm to Mizz-SEC
I'm really starting to dislike this **** Bert.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:33 pm to Mizz-SEC
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I think I deal more in what I know, what I see, what I believe
He knows he has feet, but he cannot see his feet. That is true belief.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:37 pm to Mizz-SEC
He was asked to respond to Pinkel's comments in a question asked and he did.
That isn't being rustled.
That isn't being rustled.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:37 pm to Mizz-SEC
Sounds more like Bielema rustled Pinkel.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:38 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Sounds more like Bielema rustled Pinkel.
Neither were rustled. They were both asked questions about it which means not rustled.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:39 pm to Mizz-SEC
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but I’m not throwing bread at him.
One look at Bert and one realizes the truth of this statement.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:42 pm to Mizz-SEC
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I think it’s fiction.
oh yes?
its about basketball, but the science still applies
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We spoke to a leading researcher in the field, Dr. Scott McLean, who serves as the director of the Injury Biomechanics Laboratory at the University of Michigan School of Kinesiology. McLean's studies have focused on the factors that lead to athletic injuries, and he's found evidence that fatigue changes the way the body moves in a way that leaves athletes susceptible to injuring their ligaments, including their ACL, on non-contact plays. "I think it would be somewhat naive to say fatigue doesn't play a role," McLean said. "I think that's completely wrong. I think fatigue is really important. Do I think it's the only thing? No. What fatigue tends to do is it sets up a scenario where the likelihood of a bad movement is much greater. "What muscles do when you land is they contract to stabilize the joint. What happens is as muscles get tired, they can't stabilize as effectively. Something else has to take up all that load. The only thing that's left is the things in the joint - the ligaments have to take up more load when muscles get tired. What you tend to see in a fatigued athlete is when they land, a lot of these forces transfer much more rapidly up through the joint." The most intriguing aspect of McLean's research is that mental fatigue is a factor in increased injury risk. When players aren't thinking as quickly, their movement is also slowed, putting them in danger. Other studies have focused on proprioception--the body's ability to sense where it is--and whether fatigue affects how our brains control our movements to keep them safe.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:53 pm to narddogg81
I have an idea. Let's just not play the game. It will be safer.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:54 pm to reedus23
quote:deflect
I have an idea. Let's just not play the game. It will be safer.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:58 pm to Mizz-SEC
You must be getting ready to jog cause you are really stretching.....
Posted on 7/16/14 at 5:59 pm to narddogg81
How's that deflecting? What about playing two hand touch then?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:02 pm to Mizz-SEC
No surprise that Bert is thinking about dinner.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:05 pm to Tigers of War
quote:its deflecting because its changing the subject, that fatigue can lead to more injuries. instead of addressing what i post, the subject is changed. thats deflection
How's that deflecting? What about playing two hand touch then?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:06 pm to narddogg81
Love how you wrapped this around your false premise. Basketball is not like football which is not like tennis, which is not like marathons and so on.
Try and find the stats, the research as it pertains to football.
Try and find the stats, the research as it pertains to football.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:07 pm to narddogg81
So sub the tired player out. Problem solved.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:09 pm to DropKick70
quote:how stupid are you? the physiological effect is the same if your muscle gets fatigued playing basketball or if it gets fatigued playing football. hes not talking about basketball specific motions, hes talking on a basic level how your tendons take progressively more strain of impact when your muscles get fatigued
Love how you wrapped this around your false premise. Basketball is not like football which is not like tennis, which is not like marathons and so on. Try and find the stats, the research as it pertains to football.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:13 pm to narddogg81
Remember when the NFL liked to pretend that repetitive head collisions did not have long term health effects?
How many millions of dollars did their denial cost them?
How many millions of dollars did their denial cost them?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:15 pm to narddogg81
Obviously not as stupid as you! The HUNH is run all through high school. Don't give me your God damn opinion, show me some data as it pertains to football.... dumb arse.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:16 pm to DropKick70
quote:jesus h christ
Obviously not as stupid as you! The HUNH is run all through high school. Don't give me your God damn opinion, show me some data as it pertains to football.... dumb arse.
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