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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:30 pm
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Will the day ever come?
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:30 pm to BJones
Not with Title 9.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:31 pm to BJones
I hope not. What a waste of resources. Just something else for the football programs to have to fund.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:32 pm to BJones
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Will the day ever come?
Yes
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Not with Title 9.
I hope that day does come, but I doubt it. Just like I hope the SEC eventually has hockey, rugby, lacrosse, and boxing for men.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:36 pm to BJones
All I know is SC is only 1 of 2 programs to have a former player playing for the US World Cup team.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:36 pm to BJones
Probably.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:36 pm to kingbob
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boxing for men
Amateur boxing is boring as shite (see the Olympics). I'd prefer Foxy Boxing if we're just throwing shite out there.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:38 pm to BJones
Not with Title IX
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:43 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:I was thinking about this the other day as we were driving through the Durham/Chapel Hill area. What men's sports do the ACC schools not have (or additional women's sport programs do they have) that allows them to have a men's soccer program and stay compliant with Title 9?
Not with Title 9.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:43 pm to BJones
Not unless football is exempted from Title IX.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:45 pm to BJones
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SEC Men's Soccer
Will the day ever come?
If we keep letting the PTB neuter football then I can definitely see Soccer taking on a more prominent role in American sports. Also, with concussion fears becoming more rampant, parents are going to steer their kids to soccer instead of Pee Wee league when growing up.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:46 pm to PJinAtl
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What men's sports do the ACC schools not have (or additional women's sport programs do they have) that allows them to have a men's soccer program and stay compliant with Title 9?
its more about the number of scholarships available
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:47 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Explain why Title IX is preventing Men's Soccer?
Everyone loves to just yell "Title IX' this, "Title IX" that....without actually explaining
Everyone loves to just yell "Title IX' this, "Title IX" that....without actually explaining
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:50 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Not with Title 9.
Kentucky and South Carolina both have mens soccer teams. There's no reason that other schools can't, even with Title 9.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:51 pm to BJones
You have to provide an equal # of scholarships to women's sports as you do men's. Football takes 85. You can either cut men's sports or start new women's sports (soccer, lacrosse, crew, equestrian). Most programs cant afford to do that AND add a non-revenue men's sport.
Cut their men's cross country programs. Thought Miss State did too but maybe I'm wrong.
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South Carolina
Cut their men's cross country programs. Thought Miss State did too but maybe I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:51 pm to BJones
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Will the day ever come?
Without a doubt.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:52 pm to BJones
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Explain why Title XI is preventing Men's Soccer?
Title NINE (IX, not XI) requires an equal number of women's scholarships to the number of men's scholarships, INCLUDING FOOTBALL.
As a result, you see a lot of men's programs that have to be dropped if the schools want to keep their football program. Many states have limits as to how many scholarships their public schools are allowed to give for athletic scholarships.
Those vary from state to state.
That's why you typically don't see the following sports in states like Texas:
Men's Hockey
Field Hockey (men's or women's)
Wrestling
Lacrosse
Rowing/Crew
Men's Soccer
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:52 pm to BJones
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Explain why Title XI is preventing Men's Soccer?
Everyone loves to just yell "Title XI' this, "Title XI" that....without actually explaining
Title XI dictates that there must be equal opportunity for women athletes in collegiate sports. The courts have translated this to mean that colleges must offer the same number of scholarships to both men and women. Since women don't play football and football requires an inordinate number of scholarship players, it means that a school must have far more women's sports than men's to stay compliant. The problem with this ruling is the lack of taking football into account (the fact that there is no female equivalent with regards to the number of scholarships) and the simple fact that more men than women actually want to participate in sports at the collegiate level. Also, to make matters worse, women's scholarships must be full scholarships, no partials (see men's baseball).
Therefore, in order to add any more men's sports, a college must add enough women's sports so that the same number of scholarships are still being given out to men and women.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:54 pm to BJones
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SEC Men's Soccer
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Will the day ever come?
Quidditch before soccer.
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