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"I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin."
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:10 pm
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think this is gonna play too well with a jury.
Over/under on jury deliberations when they get the case... 30 minutes being the benchmark
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Jurors listened Wednesday as a man called two teenagers who broke into his central Minnesota home "vermin" on an audio recording shortly after fatally shooting them.
Byron Smith also could be heard saying he was doing his "civic duty" on the recording, which was played during his trial. He is charged with first-degree premeditated murder in the deaths of 18-year-old Haile Kifer and 17-year-old Nick Brady.
Smith, 65, claims he feared for his life that Thanksgiving Day in 2012 and shot the teens in self-defense.
He had an audio recorder running during the shootings, and prosecutors have been playing the recording at trial. On the part played Wednesday, Smith was heard saying, "They weren't human. I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin."
"I was doing my civic duty," Smith was heard saying in another part. "I had to do it."
Smith was alone when the teens broke in and didn't alert anyone about the shootings until the next day. Prosecutors say he planned the killings that stunned Little Falls, the central Minnesota city of about 8,000 people where Smith lives, and stirred debate about how far people can go to defend their homes.
Authorities who searched Smith's home testified Wednesday that they found an audio recorder that was turned on, an operating surveillance system and a cellphone jamming device.
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On Tuesday, a part of the recording was played in court that captured the sounds of Smith shooting Brady several times as he was walking downstairs into the basement, including telling Brady "You're dead" and dragging him into his workshop.
A few minutes later, Kifer could be heard walking downstairs and was also shot several times. Another shot was heard soon after. In a statement to investigators, Smith called it a "finishing shot."
Bennett also testified that he saw a DVR recorder on a workbench in the room where the teens' bodies were found. He said he turned on the monitor and saw that the four cameras it was connected to were operating. Upstairs in the kitchen, Bennett said, he found a device designed to block incoming and outgoing cellphone calls. He said he tested it and it worked
Over/under on jury deliberations when they get the case... 30 minutes being the benchmark
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:12 pm to Alahunter
Damn, this must happen a lot in Minnesota.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:13 pm to Alahunter
Jail time for sure.
I'm fine with defending your home with deadly force, but this guy's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.
I'm fine with defending your home with deadly force, but this guy's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:54 pm to Alahunter
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two teenagers who broke into his central Minnesota home
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Prosecutors say he planned the killings
How did he "plan" to have the teenagers break into his home?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:01 pm to Tantal
quote:They had broken into his house several times in the prior months. Sounds like he just waited every night with his security cameras on until he saw them attempting to break in again. Then hunkered down in the basement and waited
How did he "plan" to have the teenagers break into his home?
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:06 pm to The Nino
i dont disagree with him on them being vermin. however, as said before the dude is dumb
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:10 pm to heartbreakTiger
Do we seriously have to remove ALL of the occupational hazards for these clowns? How about the police start disarming homeowners, then directing the burglars to the correct address as part of the NoThug Left Behind plan? Guy may have been a little kooky, but still, zero fricks given.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:16 pm to Tantal
Half of american's are pussies and the other half wanna turn it into the wild west.. I'm not sure which is better.
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:17 pm to NATidefan
wild wild west is much better than a giant vaginamerica
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:31 pm to heartbreakTiger
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wild wild west is much better than a giant vaginamerica
I wish I could have grown up in the time in between the two.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:33 am to Alahunter
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He had an audio recorder running during the shootings, and prosecutors have been playing the recording at trial
Well he obviously didn't learn anything from Nixon's presidency/impeachment
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:39 am to The Nino
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They had broken into his house several times in the prior months. Sounds like he just waited every night with his security cameras on until he saw them attempting to break in again. Then hunkered down in the basement and waited
Which, by itself, wouldn't be a crime. If he calls police right away, doesn't do a "finishing shot" and doesn't have a recorder running, he might not even have been charged.
And while the "vermin" comment is inflammatory, it's pretty accurate. They were parasites.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:41 am to Tantal
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Guy may have been a little kooky, but still, zero fricks given.
I don't think anybody is sympathetic with the dead burglars. (Or if they are, screw them.) But the dumbass homeowner went way overboard here, essentially executing the two when they were down and disabled. And then bragging about it to the police. That's based on the news reports, and these days who knows how accurate that story is. But if it is accurate, the guy should spend some time in the big house.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:39 am to NATidefan
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I wish I could have grown up in the time in between the two.
So... With slaves.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:00 am to JCinBAMA
Fargo...Are they really that way up there?? Aren't those people supposed to be decendants of Vikings?
BTW Billy Bob Thorton makes me smile...
BTW Billy Bob Thorton makes me smile...
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:17 am to Alahunter
Those teenagers would still be alive and well had they not broken into a strangers home.
Period.
I don't see how this is being looked at any other way. Did he lure them into the house? Did he force them to break into his home? No.
Period.
I don't see how this is being looked at any other way. Did he lure them into the house? Did he force them to break into his home? No.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:44 am to TheCaterpillar
the only reason it is being looked at different than normal is because the guy is crazy. If he did everything the same but just tweaked his story every sane person would agree with him.
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