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re: "I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin."

Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:10 am to
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:10 am to
Even in southern states with insanely strong castle doctrines, his actions would likely lead to a trial.

-A person already shot and incapacitated is no longer deemed a threat in the eyes of the law, therefore, a "finishing shot" is not seen as self-defense. If he had told police that he panicked and pulled the trigger 3 or 4 times in a state of panic, then yes, he would be within his rights.
-Moving the bodies at the scene of the shooting is a HUGE no-no and will always lead to further questions about whether or not the shooting was premeditated...it takes a little calculation and planning to have a tarp available so you don't get blood on your carpet.
-Waiting a full day to call police is unjustifiable and ridiculous. Once again, opening up questions as to whether or not the killing was premeditated.
-Taping the entire thing is damning on his part. If you're going to shoot someone, you shoot to kill because dead men don't testify; by recording yourself you're presenting potential evidence to contradict your testimony which would have been the only testimony available.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5894 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Even in southern states with insanely strong castle doctrines, his actions would likely lead to a trial.

-A person already shot and incapacitated is no longer deemed a threat in the eyes of the law, therefore, a "finishing shot" is not seen as self-defense. If he had told police that he panicked and pulled the trigger 3 or 4 times in a state of panic, then yes, he would be within his rights.
-Moving the bodies at the scene of the shooting is a HUGE no-no and will always lead to further questions about whether or not the shooting was premeditated...it takes a little calculation and planning to have a tarp available so you don't get blood on your carpet.
-Waiting a full day to call police is unjustifiable and ridiculous. Once again, opening up questions as to whether or not the killing was premeditated.
-Taping the entire thing is damning on his part. If you're going to shoot someone, you shoot to kill because dead men don't testify; by recording yourself you're presenting potential evidence to contradict your testimony which would have been the only testimony available.



I agree with most of this. He was clearly waiting for some kind of altercation at his home, and that's why the DA is going after pre-meditated. But no one forced the little parasites to break into his house. Had they not done so, as others have said, they'd still be alive.

Bottom line, if someone breaks into your house, shoot to kill, but call the cops right after. And don't have equipment recording you.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:24 am to
Yeah, that's essentially what I was getting at. Even with the "finishing shot", as he described it, if he hadn't moved the bodies, hadn't recorded everything, and had called the cops immediately he could've given his side of the story in a way that made him not sound insane and no one could have said otherwise. No charges would have been filed, there wouldn't be a story, he'd just be sitting at home probably jacking it while thinking about shooting those kids because the dude is likely insane.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:15 am to
Yep, two punks broke into a crazy person's home and got killed. Dude should be evaluated to see if he should remain in society. Probably shouldn't.
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