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Will homosexuality be Christianity's bane?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:54 pm
Or will it just evolve to accept the avalanche that is eventual global acceptance? I know there will be plenty of holdouts but I feel like they are already outnumbered.
Will Christianity still be worth following in 50 years when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?
Will Christianity still be worth following in 50 years when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:59 pm to WestCoastAg
"I was wondering what would break first....your spirit or your body"
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:04 pm to PrivatePublic
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Will homosexuality be Christianity's bane?
Finally something to get those fricking bible beaters off us Jews
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:13 pm to PrivatePublic
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when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?
wut?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:14 pm to PrivatePublic
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Or will it just evolve to accept the avalanche that is eventual global acceptance? I know there will be plenty of holdouts but I feel like they are already outnumbered.
Will Christianity still be worth following in 50 years when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:15 pm to PrivatePublic
So gays will succeed where Copernicus and Darwin failed?
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:17 pm to PrivatePublic
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when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?
Suggest you study more history. In the mid 1500's Henry VIII established the Church of England in order to divorce his wife Catherine of Aragon. Thereafter, he repeatedly robbed and executed catholic monks and priests in England in order to steal the wealth of the Catholic church and abbys. Henry had a habit of fighting foreign wars in france and the dutch low countries and this was how he financed much of it.
After his death, his teenaged son and heir Edward VI, continued the push toward promotion of the protestant movement despite the fact that protestantism at the time had many factions. Edward died as a teenager. His successor was Mary Tudor. Bloody Mary, who tried valiantly to return catholicism to England. She herself died of a uterine tumor. her successor was her half sister, Elizabeth 1.
This continued back and forth until the reign of James VI after the death of Queen Elizabeth I. James had to deal with the political bickering between conservative Church of England clerics and puritans who were more radical. (hence they moved to America...see Thanksgiving).
James, in his wisdom, in order to settle the religious and political dispute it caused between the factions ORDERED the two groups to work together to create a common bible. That work is the King James Bible. This is why we say prayers with "The" and "Thy" etc. Jesus didnt speak that way. The 17th century authors of the KJV bible did!!
The bible is a political work. It reflects history. The original writings were in Arabic, Aramaic, hebrew, Greek, Latin. All translated. All new testament work was written 150 years after Jesus died. Its all hearsay. Greatest book written, but I suspect theres some fiction in there too.
Religion in my mind, is mans attempt to understand the awesomeness of God. that is an evolutionary trek. So, yes, I expect things in 50 years to be different than when the KJV bible was written.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:24 pm to Pavoloco83
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but I suspect theres some fiction in there too.
you think the God of the bible would allow fiction in his book?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:33 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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you think the God of the bible would allow fiction in his book?
The bible was written by men. Men are fallible. There were multiple languages to be translated and politics involved. I think like all works of Men, the bible is not a perfect reflection of history.
However, I do think it is a perfect reflection of Gods will as understood by the men who wrote it. Thats the best we can hope for without God himself to tell us.
I at least think thats where prayer comes in. We talk to God and in some way tells us his will.
..and maybe "fiction" is the wrong word..perhaps "literary license" is the better way to think of it.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:36 pm to Pavoloco83
A book written by the imaginations of men is fallible and cannot be trusted.
A book written by men under the guidance and inspiration of the Holy Spirit will contain all truth necessary for salvation and should be trusted.
A book written by men under the guidance and inspiration of the Holy Spirit will contain all truth necessary for salvation and should be trusted.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:39 pm to PrivatePublic
I think as long as the church doesn't revert to interpret scripture for their own ends (divorce, slavery, anti-woman, conquest of Israel) the answer is no.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:39 pm to FooManChoo
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A book written by men under the guidance and inspiration of the Holy Spirit will contain all truth necessary for salvation and should be trusted.
Well said. However, still valid to understand the history of the document and the political and social environment in which it was created.
I still maintain that mans understanding of God, in its full awesomeness, is a an evolutionary path. The Holy Spirit enlightens that path. In 50 years time, I expect that understanding to be greater than it is today.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:43 pm to PrivatePublic
1: This won't go well.
2: I imagine in 50 years most Christians will support gay marriage. As an official stance churches will still consider it a sin (especially the catholic church, since by cannot change by their own definition) but I think most Christians wont care at all. Many already are fine with it.
Religion will always evolve with society just as it always has. 500 years ago burning heretics at the stake was considered perfectly reasonable.
2: I imagine in 50 years most Christians will support gay marriage. As an official stance churches will still consider it a sin (especially the catholic church, since by cannot change by their own definition) but I think most Christians wont care at all. Many already are fine with it.
Religion will always evolve with society just as it always has. 500 years ago burning heretics at the stake was considered perfectly reasonable.
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