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re: Will homosexuality be Christianity's bane?

Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 pm to
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I think most Christians wont care at all. Many already are fine with it.


This is where most of us are (especially those in my peer group).

Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 pm to
Oh, and the bible has already been changed. Multiple times. Many of the translations from the original Hebrew and Greek are laughable. The KJV is littered with errors. An entire chapter of Mark was added 400 years after it was written.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:46 pm to
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Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.


Yup.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:49 pm to
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Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.


This is how I always was.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:50 pm to
Men may change in some respects (there's nothing new under the Sun), but God doesn't. Whether so-called Christians believe God's word or not, God is always true.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:50 pm to
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Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.

Posted by Pavoloco83
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:55 pm to
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(especially the catholic church, since by cannot change by their own definition)


Im not so sure. This pope has shown great tendency toward both reconciliation and greater understanding. Both positives in my book. The Catholic Church has evolved over the years and will continue to do so.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:56 pm to
Man created God in his own image. Therefore God will continue to change as benefits man. It's only logical.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Pavoloco83
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:57 pm to
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Man created God in his own image.


Stated another way, I think Man understands God only relative to his own image. That has its limitations.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:06 pm to
Being made in God's image doesn't mean we are exactly as He is, or He is exactly as we are.

Men change, but God does not; He is immutable while we sway like reeds in the wind.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:06 pm to
Anyone that stands behind the bible to beat up on or condemn gays is not a real christian.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:16 pm to
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Im not so sure. This pope has shown great tendency toward both reconciliation and greater understanding. Both positives in my book. The Catholic Church has evolved over the years and will continue to do so.


The problem is that the catholic church is built upon the idea that they are the ONE true church and infallible in regards to moral teaching. You lose that credibility if you change even one teaching.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:22 pm to
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Will Christianity still be worth following in 50 years when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?


Jesus never actually said anything about homosexuality, so no need to change the bible for that.
Posted by Pavoloco83
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:28 pm to
I wish everyone the opportunity to have a love of your life. I have no issues with whom its with.

What I irritates me personally are the prissy, effeminate social retards that are often gay. That just pisses me off. Its NOT the gay part. its the social immaturity.

Classic example

Right, wrong or indifferent, thats just me.

Posted by Pavoloco83
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:32 pm to
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The problem is that the catholic church is built upon the idea that they are the ONE true church and infallible in regards to moral teaching.


I think the feeling is now more universal and inclusive than that. Our catholic church has a relationship with a local synagogue and celebrates a Seder meal around Easter every year.

In times when there was not a separation of church and state, religion was PART of the state. That lent itself alone to dogma around one church. That was also a reaction to political separation caused by the reformation.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:57 pm to
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All new testament work was written 150 years after Jesus died. Its all hearsay.


1) That's some interesting dating of the New Testament texts. Some might go so far as to say it's inane.

2) In an oral society, "hearsay" isn't the same as "hearsay" in a written society. Oral tradition is very static in oral societies. Ascribing your cultural biases to another culture's systems usually doesn't end well.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:00 am to
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Or will it just evolve to accept the avalanche that is eventual global acceptance?


they will accept it eventually and then claim that only the extremists didn't

religions are always evolving with the times...if they don't they'll be obsolete

Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:00 am to
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Jesus never actually said anything about homosexuality, so no need to change the bible for that.
Apparently only the red letters are the words of God.

Jesus must also have been non-existent prior to the incarnation, or if He did exist somehow, He must not have been in agreement with the Father's position on the matter.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:58 am to
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Jesus must also have been non-existent prior to the incarnation, or if He did exist somehow, He must not have been in agreement with the Father's position on the matter.


Must be why he never brought it up in the New Testament. Touchy subject with his dad.
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