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re: Will homosexuality be Christianity's bane?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I think most Christians wont care at all. Many already are fine with it.
This is where most of us are (especially those in my peer group).
Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 pm to PrivatePublic
Oh, and the bible has already been changed. Multiple times. Many of the translations from the original Hebrew and Greek are laughable. The KJV is littered with errors. An entire chapter of Mark was added 400 years after it was written.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:46 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.
Yup.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:49 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.
This is how I always was.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:50 pm to Pavoloco83
Men may change in some respects (there's nothing new under the Sun), but God doesn't. Whether so-called Christians believe God's word or not, God is always true.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:50 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Don't agree with it, won't promote it or glorify it, but also won't do the opposite or hold it in any worse regard than any other perceived transgression.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:55 pm to Roger Klarvin
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(especially the catholic church, since by cannot change by their own definition)
Im not so sure. This pope has shown great tendency toward both reconciliation and greater understanding. Both positives in my book. The Catholic Church has evolved over the years and will continue to do so.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:56 pm to FooManChoo
Man created God in his own image. Therefore God will continue to change as benefits man. It's only logical.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:57 pm to Kentucker
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This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:57 pm to Kentucker
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Man created God in his own image.
Stated another way, I think Man understands God only relative to his own image. That has its limitations.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:06 pm to Kentucker
Being made in God's image doesn't mean we are exactly as He is, or He is exactly as we are.
Men change, but God does not; He is immutable while we sway like reeds in the wind.
Men change, but God does not; He is immutable while we sway like reeds in the wind.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:06 pm to PrivatePublic
Anyone that stands behind the bible to beat up on or condemn gays is not a real christian.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:16 pm to Pavoloco83
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Im not so sure. This pope has shown great tendency toward both reconciliation and greater understanding. Both positives in my book. The Catholic Church has evolved over the years and will continue to do so.
The problem is that the catholic church is built upon the idea that they are the ONE true church and infallible in regards to moral teaching. You lose that credibility if you change even one teaching.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:22 pm to PrivatePublic
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Will Christianity still be worth following in 50 years when it has been established that the bible can be changed to reflect changes in society?
Jesus never actually said anything about homosexuality, so no need to change the bible for that.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:28 pm to bencoleman
I wish everyone the opportunity to have a love of your life. I have no issues with whom its with.
What I irritates me personally are the prissy, effeminate social retards that are often gay. That just pisses me off. Its NOT the gay part. its the social immaturity.
Classic example
Right, wrong or indifferent, thats just me.
What I irritates me personally are the prissy, effeminate social retards that are often gay. That just pisses me off. Its NOT the gay part. its the social immaturity.
Classic example
Right, wrong or indifferent, thats just me.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The problem is that the catholic church is built upon the idea that they are the ONE true church and infallible in regards to moral teaching.
I think the feeling is now more universal and inclusive than that. Our catholic church has a relationship with a local synagogue and celebrates a Seder meal around Easter every year.
In times when there was not a separation of church and state, religion was PART of the state. That lent itself alone to dogma around one church. That was also a reaction to political separation caused by the reformation.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:57 pm to Pavoloco83
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All new testament work was written 150 years after Jesus died. Its all hearsay.
1) That's some interesting dating of the New Testament texts. Some might go so far as to say it's inane.
2) In an oral society, "hearsay" isn't the same as "hearsay" in a written society. Oral tradition is very static in oral societies. Ascribing your cultural biases to another culture's systems usually doesn't end well.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:00 am to PrivatePublic
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Or will it just evolve to accept the avalanche that is eventual global acceptance?
they will accept it eventually and then claim that only the extremists didn't
religions are always evolving with the times...if they don't they'll be obsolete
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:00 am to Stonehog
quote:Apparently only the red letters are the words of God.
Jesus never actually said anything about homosexuality, so no need to change the bible for that.
Jesus must also have been non-existent prior to the incarnation, or if He did exist somehow, He must not have been in agreement with the Father's position on the matter.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 12:58 am to FooManChoo
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Jesus must also have been non-existent prior to the incarnation, or if He did exist somehow, He must not have been in agreement with the Father's position on the matter.
Must be why he never brought it up in the New Testament. Touchy subject with his dad.
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