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Bowl/Year assesment

Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:41 am
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 4:41 am
Ok there are 20 threads bouncing around about whos fault who looked good bad etc.

So why dont we just put it all in one thread.

Post your assesment of the bowl/year include stand outs let downs etc.

predictions for next year.

My assesment for the year
The offense was as good or better than any team in the conference at least the starters were. We saw where we stood in depth once the injury bug started biting and we still found ways to win, but you cannot win championships on offense alone. The defense while we saw bright spots here and there, overall it was undisciplined and for up to 60 minutes a game looked lost.
Bowl Game
Mason
looked very uncomfortable back there he floats the ball and we were very lucky we did not see more interceptions than we did, He did not look like the same Mason we saw the 2nd half of the GT game.
OL couldnt keep a B1G defense off of Mason for shite.
TGII looked slugish almost fat. The injuries are still nagging him as you could see when he actually broke for any amount of yardage it looked like a chore for him to run.
WR well as we all saw they couldnt have caught the clap from Courtny Love yesterday.
Defence actually looked a little better than most of the season but still needs a LOT of work.

Next years prediction. If Mason can find his comfort zone and start playing up to his potential and the defense with another year under its belt starts playing better. 9-3/10-2 if what we saw yesterday is what we get next year. Richt will be on the hot seat by mid season CTG will be fired.

Honestly I think the "we owe Mason" mentality needs to go away.. Yes he was going to transfer and then decided not too, so what I say open the QB position up all the way up to next fall and lets see who deserves it.

ok Im done
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 6:42 am to
Agree on all points

ETA: Lynch cost himself a few mil yesterday
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 6:43 am
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:05 am to
That’s a fair assessment bdv.

Watching Mason was painful. Maybe it was that he lost both starting guards or his WR couldn’t find any space? I had flashbacks of Joe Cox, forget they share the same number. Mason looked scared most of the game, he gave up on his progressions too soon. Yes, Nebraska was putting a lot of pressure on him, but he didn’t respond well.

The defense played well. If you take away the 99 yard bomb on 3rd and Grantham, then I’d say it was a successful game. Our safeties are terrible, but of front 7 seven is strong.

I think you’re on point with your prediction, 9-3 best case scenario.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:15 am to
3rd and Grantham.....nice.
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:15 am to
Mason needs to get comfortable and grow a set. He needs to work on his throwing the floaters will kill him.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19081 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:21 am to
I'm willing to give Mason some slack for that game. He is not the reason we lost. In just his second game he had us in a position to snag a second decent comeback win in as many games if Lymch doesn't drop it.

TGII did look almost fat. Hope he gets after it in the off season. That having been said, he is still a beast. We need some stellar RBs to back him up, though. He/we missed Marshall.

Defense should continue to improve, but it would be really hard for them not to.

We almost (should have) won 10 games this year despite the adversity. If we don't win 10 next year with the team we have coming back, changes should be made.
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:41 am to
Although I agree its not all on Mason, if Murray had been back there there is no doubt who would have won. Im just saying yesterday he did ok but a lot of the time he looked like a scared Halloween cat
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19081 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Although I agree its not all on Mason, if Murray had been back there there is no doubt who would have won. Im just saying yesterday he did ok but a lot of the time he looked like a scared Halloween cat

There was a drop off, but that had to be expected. There was that one crossing route to Bennett that Mason missed for what would have been an easy TD for Murray.

Also, we went back to being Field Goal U. Kind of forgot what that was like for the last four years. We've never had a QB with a nose for the end zone like AM.

All that having been said, we were plagued by drops that were in no way the fault of Mason. He's had two tough assignment for his first two games and played well enough for us to win both.

I think he'll continue to improve and he should be fine.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 8:59 am
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:04 am to
I want to see a few more bullets and a few less grenade tosses then I will feel better.. but he has the off season to work it out
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:06 am to
Reasonable assessment, bdv.

My overall view is well known so I won't waste your time repeating it here. It's pretty much a reflection of my bowl summary:

Here's a link to the box score: LINK Data/facts talk and b.s. walks.

1. As has often been the case, TO's were a major factor in the loss; we had 2 critical TO's, 1 more than Nebraska. We had a negative TO margin for the season.
2. While we had more first downs, more total yardage and led in time of possession by almost 7 minutes, Nebraska ran the ball better than we did with 144 yards to our 96. They averaged 3.3 yards per carry to our 2.2; 2.2 doesn't cut it when you are trying to sustain drives.
3. Mason played well enough to win completing 21/39 passes 1 TD and 1 INT. Critical drops of routine/softly thrown passes by receivers prevented a comeback to win on that final drive. Mason was short-arming a lot of his passes apparently trying to increase accuracy and make them easy for our receivers to catch. Mason as a new starter is taking a lot of time to work through his progressions.
4. Our OL was pass blocking pretty well for Mason considering that our receivers could not get open and Mason was taking a lot time trying to find an open receiver. Our OL was pretty much stonewalled on most running plays.
5. As you said, Gurley is obviously not 100% and yes, the field conditions were a factor; apparently we weren't wearing the correct cleats for the that type of field according to the field manager who manages the field for the Jaguars (this from the TV commentators). Gurley has not had the same moves and flat out speed that he had before the ankle injury.
6. Our secondary is not good and the absence of JHC might well have been the difference in the game. Nebraska did not pass much, 6/16 for 163 yards, but 2 big plays for TD's were a significant part of the difference in the game.
7. Special teams continues to hurt us. Reggie Davis should be removed from the punt return duty. He just doesn't seem to be able to position himself to receive punts cleanly. Finding himself out of position on that muffed punt, he should have just let it go.
8. The main bright spot was FG kicking my Marshall Morgan. We have another good one.
9. However, we were having to kick FG's because our redzone offense is not good. We have no power running game when we need it because our OL is not good at run blocking and we could not come up with a well designed pass play in most critical situations and when we did the passes were dropped by our receivers.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 10:34 am
Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
689 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:26 am to
Some good points. I am not quite as bullish on our teams chances next year. I am expecting another 8 - 5 type year. Hoping that I am wrong but based on the play of the last two games, I just do not see us improving over this year. I hope Mason improves and I expect he will after he practices more and spends more time preparing as the starting QB. I do question his arm strength and accuracy though.

Same thought on Gurley - he looked like he had put on a significant amount of weight and it was not helping him. It is obvious that something is still not right with him as his running was nowhere near what he showed us earlier in the season.

Our secondary is God Awful. That 99.5 yard bomb that we gave up to Nebraska was simply unacceptable. The CB who had coverage (Swan?) gave up on the play and then held his arms out as if to say, "it aint my fault". He should have been hauling A$$ to try to catch the receiver to make up for his mistake. Finish it off with the safety who whiffed on making the big hit and you have a deplorable play. Front 7 are good but any smart team will just pass over them.

OL will struggle next year and I am sure CMR and others will use the fact that they struggle as a reason for our lack of success vs fixing the problem. 72 or par for the course.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:29 am to
Agree with everything you said there.

The two things that hurt us the most this season was our defense and offensive injuries. What a disappointing year.

As far as Mason goes, he didn't play as well as I had hoped, but he didn't lose the game for us. He made some bad throws that may have resulted in a TD or two if he hits them, but otherwise he did OK. It was Gurley that really kept our offense going, though. As sluggish as he looked with his injury, he still played through it and made some big plays for us.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Honestly I think the "we owe Mason" mentality needs to go away.. Yes he was going to transfer and then decided not too, so what I say open the QB position up all the way up to next fall and lets see who deserves it.


100% yes. Owing a player is BS and you would never see that at any other SEC program. From what we saw from Mason yesterday, he will not cut it at this level. Let Ramsey actually compete for the starting job.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

From what we saw from Mason yesterday, he will not cut it at this level.


So a guy that's starting his first bowl game in the rain with two starters on the O-Line out, receivers that couldn't get open then drop passes when they are open, a starting running back that is still well below 100%, a WR core that's so injured Townes was on the field, the second team running back out...All that and he won't cut it? Murray didn't win a bowl game until his third try. You people are ridiculous.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9365 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:43 am to

TG
Very disappointed in his progress, leadership, and physical performance. I know sprained ankles can be hard to recover from, BUT he should be much further along. Beyond that, he did look out of shape and not showing much in the area of leadership.

Mason
Appeared to have lost his gunslinger status. Hard to say whether this was the pressure, play calling, lack of trust in receivers or hangover. He best find some swag. QB competition should be OPEN.

O-line
No idea why the line that did a solid job protecting Murray early this year had such an issue with Nebraska. My guess is they just didn't have the desire (like the rest of the team and fans).

Receivers
I hope Mason working with these guys over the summer helps. Very unimpressive.

3rd and Grantham
Enough said. Secondary.

Year as a whole
I can easily see where this year would have put the team in a negative place. Hard to believe but we had the ball with a chance to win in every single loss but Missouri. Can't get much closer than that.

Very concerned that a lack of overall leadership might create some issues over the summer. Who do we have that can step up in this area?
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
1749 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:06 am to
quote:

ETA: Lynch cost himself a few mil yesterday


Lynch is known for at least one drop ball per game. It isn't news.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1303 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

5. As you said, Gurley is obviously not 100% and yes, the field conditions were a factor; apparently we weren't wearing the correct cleats for the that time of field according to the field manager who manages the field for the Jaguars (this from the TV commentators). Gurley has not had the same moves and flat out speed that he had before the ankle injury.


How does this happen if true? Someone should be held accountable for this. It was obvious the team was a little flat and hampered by field conditions. Abdullah seemed to cut better than TG. Was it the cleats? I saw both teams shaking heads in frustration with field conditions though. Slick field + heavy/hobbled TG probably puts him at about 80% (yet he still had a good game).

He does need to check that temper. He's letting these guys get in his head.
Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
689 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:24 am to
Some valid points; however, Mason made a lot of throws which were just not accurate an others that looked like pop ups to the infield. He missed Lynch (I think it was Lynch) on what would have definitely been a TD. Can't recall if we settled for a FG or ended up getting a TD on that drive.

Mason definitely needs to improve and with time - hopefully he will. As others have said, we do not owe any player anything. Every player should compete for every job - no gurantees.

It was obvious that our team still has injury issues and serious issues such as our OL and secondary. The real question is will CMR make the changes that are needed so our team will improve next year? I doubt it but we will see.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:25 am to
LINK

Nice thread bdv1974, put it up with this one and I'm somewhere in the middle.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:32 am to
quote:

quote:
ETA: Lynch cost himself a few mil yesterday


Lynch is known for at least one drop ball per game. It isn't news.


It takes a special breed to be a good receiver. Human instinct is to look where you are going never mind there is likely some near about to bust your arse. But being a great receiver means you must be fearless with absolute concentration.

All receivers miss some passes either due to tough coverage or inaccurate passes. However, the passes that Lynch and Wooten missed were routine passes thrown softly and accurately. In both cases they missed easy passes because they did not look the ball into their hands not taking your eye off the ball until it is secure.

Lynch was obviously thinking about scoring and not about securing the ball for the first down which was all we needed. He had the first down yardage if he just caught the ball and fell down immediately; we only needed 2 yards for the first down.

This was analogous to the mental error by our safeties in the immaculate deflection play vs Auburn. In both cases, our players made mental errors that cost us a game. In short, our teams make a lot a mistakes because they don't have either mental or physical discipline. They don't have it because Richt does not instill discipline in his players.
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