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Posted on 11/13/13 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/13 at 7:43 pm
On ESPNU.com the quote from Jeremy Foley and President Machen is loud and clear: Muschamp has their support.
Before folks start the old vote of confidence before a firing crap...Foley went way beyond just AD speak...he was quoted as 1,000 times behind Muschamp and believes in his ability now just as much as when he was hired. He didn't have to add all that...but he also wants the message board junk gone....he wanted to deliver a strong message to fans.
This was done to help recruiting and folks need to stop the listing of coaches and kneejerk crap. It AINT happening. Boom will be back and if he doesn't do well...that's another story...he will have had 4 yrs then.
Those who post coach search threads or start the suggestions are either rivals trying to undermine our recruiting or don't read English. If you aren't helping...then please read Foleys sentiments...you don't have to agree with him, but please understand that there will not be a change at the HC job.
Before folks start the old vote of confidence before a firing crap...Foley went way beyond just AD speak...he was quoted as 1,000 times behind Muschamp and believes in his ability now just as much as when he was hired. He didn't have to add all that...but he also wants the message board junk gone....he wanted to deliver a strong message to fans.
This was done to help recruiting and folks need to stop the listing of coaches and kneejerk crap. It AINT happening. Boom will be back and if he doesn't do well...that's another story...he will have had 4 yrs then.
Those who post coach search threads or start the suggestions are either rivals trying to undermine our recruiting or don't read English. If you aren't helping...then please read Foleys sentiments...you don't have to agree with him, but please understand that there will not be a change at the HC job.
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 8:38 pm to reel_gator8
How old is Art Briles?
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:20 pm to reel_gator8
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Those who post coach search threads or start the suggestions are either rivals trying to undermine our recruiting or don't read English.
Wow...
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:54 pm to boXerrumble
Ok so what are the chances Boom lowers the Boom on some of his staff after the season?
also...... I am hoping the Gators have a chicken dinner this weekend.. Kick em in the cocks
also...... I am hoping the Gators have a chicken dinner this weekend.. Kick em in the cocks
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:09 pm to bdv1974
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Ok so what are the chances Boom lowers the Boom on some of his staff after the season?
If Muschamp stays, which looks almost certain now, its probably a given that some of the staff will not be back.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:18 pm to boXerrumble
None of us know what is happening to his staff...Boom will make decisions that he can live with and isn't going to have his hand forced.
Not saying there wont be a lot of changes in the staff on the off side....just saying we don't know what Boom is thinking. If he doesn't fire anyone he still has his job....it may not be popular...but if HE feels moving forward with Pease is the best avenue...then he will. There isn't a real proven OC that's going to come to UF with job security on the line. Its either in house or no change in my opinion.
Folks have got to understand the devastating injuries we have been subjected to and I've never seen anything like it.
Not saying there wont be a lot of changes in the staff on the off side....just saying we don't know what Boom is thinking. If he doesn't fire anyone he still has his job....it may not be popular...but if HE feels moving forward with Pease is the best avenue...then he will. There isn't a real proven OC that's going to come to UF with job security on the line. Its either in house or no change in my opinion.
Folks have got to understand the devastating injuries we have been subjected to and I've never seen anything like it.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:41 am to reel_gator8
I am comfortable knowing he'll be sacked if we're not markedly improved next year, plus I think the upside is worth the chance if he gets the ship righted. It will be frustrating as a fan to sit through another bad season, but working at Florida makes an impression. There is too much money, influence, and support for Florida to ever truly become irrelevant. 2014 will make or break Champ, but not UF as a elite program.
Sometimes I think that there is still some deep, subconscious fear that Gators nurse that the 90s and 00s were a fluke and that we'll end up like the Florida of years before then. It won't happen. It's not just the AAU, trustees, Foley, and Manchen that want a serious team. There are lots of deans and higher ups in the various administrations on campus that support football here. Believe it or not, that is a little rare at universities that have strong academic programs and athletic departments. We're going to be OK.
Sometimes I think that there is still some deep, subconscious fear that Gators nurse that the 90s and 00s were a fluke and that we'll end up like the Florida of years before then. It won't happen. It's not just the AAU, trustees, Foley, and Manchen that want a serious team. There are lots of deans and higher ups in the various administrations on campus that support football here. Believe it or not, that is a little rare at universities that have strong academic programs and athletic departments. We're going to be OK.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 9:27 pm to roadGator
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:29 am to boXerrumble
Staff changes coming on O side. At least 2 will be gone.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:38 am to gatordmb89
For the few that want Boom gone, there's still hope. Jay Jacobs (Auburn's AD) said the same thing about Chizik in 2012.
That said, I think Boom will stay. He just has to find the right coaches on O.
That said, I think Boom will stay. He just has to find the right coaches on O.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 4:35 am to LuciusSulla
quote:That's the concensus amongst fans which sucks for Muschamp because next year's schedule is as difficult as it gets.
2014 will make or break Champ, but not UF as a elite program.
Don't know how others are going to measure 'success' next year but for me, team performance > strict W-L. No ULL performances like last year, even if we trip into wins.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 4:57 am to cornhat
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That's the concensus amongst fans which sucks for Muschamp because next year's schedule is as difficult as it gets.
Don't know how others are going to measure 'success' next year but for me, team performance > strict W-L. No ULL performances like last year, even if we trip into wins.
This...especially on the offensive side of the ball.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 8:33 am to cornhat
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Don't know how others are going to measure 'success' next year but for me, team performance > strict W-L. No ULL performances like last year, even if we trip into wins.
Maybe you aren't aware that Bama, after losing to UF in 2008 SECCG, and posting perfect undefeated season until that game, was awarded a nice BCS trip to Sugar Bowl where they promptly got their azz kicked by Utah. Why? Because...just like us last year they were disappointed entering bowl game...just like us...we were only a win in Jax from playing for the SECCG and maybe a BCS title.
No one mentions Bamas fiasco...but UF gets raked over hot coals.
So...if Saban got creamed in the Sugar Bowl by an underdog...lets give Boom a break. Our players didn't want to be there...just like Bama players didn't want to be there to play Utah.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 8:48 am to reel_gator8
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Maybe you aren't aware that Bama, after losing to UF in 2008 SECCG, and posting perfect undefeated season until that game, was awarded a nice BCS trip to Sugar Bowl where they promptly got their azz kicked by Utah. Why? Because...just like us last year they were disappointed entering bowl game...just like us...we were only a win in Jax from playing for the SECCG and maybe a BCS title.
No one mentions Bamas fiasco...but UF gets raked over hot coals.
So...if Saban got creamed in the Sugar Bowl by an underdog...lets give Boom a break. Our players didn't want to be there...just like Bama players didn't want to be there to play Utah.
Bama came back the next year and won the BCS title instead of losing to Vandy.
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:56 am to reel_gator8
I'm referring to the Louisiana Lafayette Ragin Cajuns, not Louisville. I feel the same as you do about our Sugar Bowl performance, even though I don't think it's a good reason to lay an egg.
And after you, I'm probably next in line for the 'don't fire Muschamp' bus. And because of next year's schedule, I'm almost going to give him a pass on 2014. But the man has made mistakes as a coach. I'm not absolving him of everything.
And after you, I'm probably next in line for the 'don't fire Muschamp' bus. And because of next year's schedule, I'm almost going to give him a pass on 2014. But the man has made mistakes as a coach. I'm not absolving him of everything.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 12:52 pm to cornhat
I personally would have never hired Muschamp, but I wouldn't fire him now. I don't like a lot of the things he does as a coach, but I really like a few things he does. He is a players coach and we play physical football and really good defense. I love that.
However, if he thinks he will win long term with this conservative style while being the most penalized team in the conference he is dead wrong. If he would have instilled some discipline in this team (after being here 3 years) we would probably be 5-5 or 6-4 at this point and the calls for his head would not be nearly as numerous. This is a stupid team, which is a direct reflection on the coaching. I think we beat Miami and Georgia if we didn't play like a bunch of dumb asses.
That said, unless something drastically changes or Muschamp punches somebody, he will be back next year and I hope he can mature and coach the team to mature.
Foley's mantra is "If something needs to be done eventually, it needs to be done immediately." And that was a quote from him when he fired Ron Zook mid season.
However, if he thinks he will win long term with this conservative style while being the most penalized team in the conference he is dead wrong. If he would have instilled some discipline in this team (after being here 3 years) we would probably be 5-5 or 6-4 at this point and the calls for his head would not be nearly as numerous. This is a stupid team, which is a direct reflection on the coaching. I think we beat Miami and Georgia if we didn't play like a bunch of dumb asses.
That said, unless something drastically changes or Muschamp punches somebody, he will be back next year and I hope he can mature and coach the team to mature.
Foley's mantra is "If something needs to be done eventually, it needs to be done immediately." And that was a quote from him when he fired Ron Zook mid season.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 2:52 pm to cornhat
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And after you, I'm probably next in line for the 'don't fire Muschamp' bus
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And because of next year's schedule, I'm almost going to give him a pass on 2014
I am not giving him a pass in 2014 because of schedule. Four years is plenty to show us what you can do and 2013 was beyond his control. The fans need to keep the noise down so he can recruit and that's why Foley and Machen issued their statements...to end the noise.
Don't have a W/L record that is make or break for Boom next year...but anymore than three losses is not good imho....and Im not even happy with that. It depends a lot on how we play...but I honestly feel we will be 10-2 or even 11-1 next year.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 3:55 pm to reel_gator8
Although I don't fully agree with some of your other posts on what's gone wrong , I do agree with what you have posted. FWIW, I was critical of WM, but I do think he should get 2014.
It also depends on the types of losses too, but there's no question, next year HAS TO be much better.
, I do agree with what you have posted. FWIW, I was critical of WM, but I do think he should get 2014. quote:
Don't have a W/L record that is make or break for Boom next year...but anymore than three losses is not good imho....and Im not even happy with that. It depends a lot on how we play...but I honestly feel we will be 10-2 or even 11-1 next year.
It also depends on the types of losses too, but there's no question, next year HAS TO be much better.
Posted on 11/17/13 at 9:27 pm to SpartyGator
Nice to see some rational Gators. Some of the other forums are just bat shite. I'm on board with Champ through next year. To get to a fifth, I feel beating Georgia and a serious run at Atlanta are musts whether that translates to 10-2 or 8-4. That's the bar for me. If we're in the hunt for the east still in November and get a win in Jax, I'm good. If not, we need new blood.
This post was edited on 11/17/13 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:33 am to LuciusSulla
Our schedules are always bad.
I support Will, but even with a brutal schedule, there has to be definite improvement on offense next year.
Many other Gator boards are simply unbearable. The constant rehashing of misery, blame and hatred towards our own is simply sickening. I cannot stand the constant criticism, and negativity. Everything positive is permission to start bashing, and everything evolves to how bad is Will Muschamp regardless of what he does. I'm practically just going to basketball boards right now, I can't stand the attitude of entitlement many of our fans have.
I support Will, but even with a brutal schedule, there has to be definite improvement on offense next year.
Many other Gator boards are simply unbearable. The constant rehashing of misery, blame and hatred towards our own is simply sickening. I cannot stand the constant criticism, and negativity. Everything positive is permission to start bashing, and everything evolves to how bad is Will Muschamp regardless of what he does. I'm practically just going to basketball boards right now, I can't stand the attitude of entitlement many of our fans have.
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