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Why didn't Spurrier go to LSU in 05'?

Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:13 am
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:13 am
In 2005 Steve Spurrier got hired by the South Carolina Gamecocks. The same year Les Miles was hired by the LSU tigers. Since then.

Miles w/ LSU:

LSU Tigers (Southeastern Conference) (2005–present)
2005 LSU 11–2 7–1 1st (West) W Chick-fil-A 6 5
2006 LSU 11–2 6–2 2nd (West) W Sugar† 3 3
2007 LSU 12–2 6–2 1st (West) W BCS NCG† 1 1
2008 LSU 8–5 3–5 3rd (West) W Chick-fil-A
2009 LSU 9–4 5–3 2nd (West) L Capital One 17 17
2010 LSU 11–2 6–2 T–2nd (West) W Cotton 8 8
2011 LSU 13–1 8–0 1st (West) L BCS NCG† 2 2
2012 LSU 10–2 6–2 T–2nd (West)

LSU: 85–20 47–17

S. Carolina w/ Spurrier:

South Carolina Gamecocks (Southeastern Conference) (2005–present)
2005 South Carolina 7–5 5–3 T–2nd (East) L Independence
2006 South Carolina 8–5 3–5 5th (East) W Liberty
2007 South Carolina 6–6 3–5 T–4th (East)
2008 South Carolina 7–6 4–4 T–3rd (East) L Outback
2009 South Carolina 7–6 3–5 T–4th (East) L PapaJohns.com
2010 South Carolina 9–5 5–3 1st (East) L Chick-Fil-A 22 22
2011 South Carolina 11–2 6–2 2nd (East) W Capital One 8 9
2012 South Carolina 10–2 6–2 3rd (East)
South Carolina: 65–37 35–29


It seems like he could have won big with the talent available. What made South Carolina so attractive and did Lou Holts have something to do with his decision to replace him coach? And when did 2005 begin to feel like 1995?
This post was edited on 12/2/12 at 3:16 am
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:16 am to
Because if your greatest coach ever, the one who builds your program from relative mediocrity to national contender, leaves for the NFL for two years, then comes back to the college ranks at a school in the same division, Florida fans don't take it as personally and harbor so much hatred about it.


Unlike some fans I know.
Posted by cramps
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:17 am to
Because it was a more attractive place to live?
Posted by CrippleCreek
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:18 am to
Spurrier was announced as the SCAR coach in November of 2004, and Saban didn't bail on LSU until Christmas Day. The job was never open while Spurrier was looking to get back into college.




Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:18 am to
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It seems like he could have won big with the talent available

Yep, anyone can win with all that talent. That's why LSU has 35 CC's and 23 NC's in football.
Posted by Tigerinasia
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:18 am to
If Spurrier had gone to Tennessee or possibly Georgia, Fla fans might feel differently. Just speculation.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:19 am to
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Yep, anyone can win with all that talent. That's why LSU has 35 CC's and 23 NC's in football.

Well they didn't have all that talent until Saban built them into the recruiting juggernaut that they are (and Miles continued it)
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:19 am to
Augusta National and Miller Lite. Next question?

Why is he a whiney douche?
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:19 am to
quote:

Because it was a more attractive place to live?


Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:20 am to
Yeah but their state is the NFL per capita king. They just needed a reason to want to go to LSU. That athletic complex Saban had the gang build is a death star.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:20 am to
quote:

If Spurrier had gone to Tennessee or possibly Georgia, Fla fans might feel differently. Just speculation.

Our rivals are Auburn and UT
Posted by Tigerinasia
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:21 am to
@genro

No argument here on Saban's impact on LSU during his time there.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:21 am to
Good question but it has an easy answer

Spurrier was hired in mid November of 2004. Saban did not announce he was leaving LSU for the Miami Dolphins until the week of Christmas 2004.

LSU might well have ended up with SOS if Saban had communicated his plans with LSU prior to leaving them just before the bowl game.
Posted by UKWildcatsFAN
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:22 am to
quote:

Spurrier was announced as the SCAR coach in November of 2004, and Saban didn't bail on LSU until Christmas Day. The job was never open while Spurrier was looking to get back into college.



Damn I guess he screwed up. Could you imagine spurrier having the talent of miles for the past 7 years.
Posted by Tigerinasia
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:22 am to
How does that apply to my comment? What am I missing about Bama rivals versus Fla rivals?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:23 am to
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Augusta National

That's a lot closer to the truth then people think. Plus Spurrier still probably hasn't forgotten poor treatment in late 80's when Archer was hired.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:23 am to
quote:

How does that apply to my comment? What am I missing about Bama rivals versus Fla rivals?

LSU and Bama have both been very good and have had big games lately.


Exact same thing with Bama/UF in the 90s and in 08 and 09. But we're not rivals.

UF and UGA/UT are rivals. Bama and LSU aren't rivals.
This post was edited on 12/2/12 at 3:24 am
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:24 am to
quote:

Spurrier was announced as the SCAR coach in November of 2004, and Saban didn't bail on LSU until Christmas Day. The job was never open while Spurrier was looking to get back into college.


Damn I guess he screwed up. Could you imagine spurrier having the talent of miles for the past 7 years.




Posted by Tigerinasia
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:26 am to
This is not the thread to rehash who is who's rival. All I know as an LSU fan that is 40 years old that I have considered Bama as LSU's top rival since I was 8 years old. It has never mattered to me whether it was a mutual feeling.

So in the context of talking about Fla fans being upset as compared to LSU fans, logic says we consider the perspective of Fla fans and not cloud the conversation with Bama or SCar fan perspective.
Posted by CrippleCreek
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Posted on 12/2/12 at 3:27 am to
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Damn I guess he screwed up. Could you imagine spurrier having the talent of miles for the past 7 years.



Who the hell knows what would have happened in the long run, but thinking about SOS with the 2006 LSU team is definitely fapworthy.

Jamarcus Russell, Dwayne Bowe, Buster Davis, and Early Doucet.

That would have been filthy. Who knows, maybe he'd have been able to make a player out of Xavier Carter too.
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