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Emmert on Bruce Pearl and Cam Newton in USAToday

Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:40 pm
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Asked about the swiftness of some decisions – Newton was reinstated quickly though the investigation is ongoing – while others drag on for months or years, as was the case of Reggie Bush at USC, Emmert said: "Everyone looks at the Reggie Bush case and says, 'It took them a long time.' But they got it right, I think. It was a very hard, complex case. Again, remember, the NCAA does not have subpoena power. You cannot mandate that somebody talks to you. You have to work very hard to get at the facts."


Thoughts? Sorry if Germans...
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:46 pm to
i think that with the timing of the allegations and auburn being as successful as they are this year the ncaa is trying to cash in on a big NC game. auburn going down would have been a big hit for them. thats why they cleared shite up real fast.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17214 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:46 pm to
Another question for him about Pearl would have been why Dez Bryant was suspended for the year for lying to the NCAA while Pearl hasn't been suspended for the year for lying to the NCAA. Bryant didn't even lie about a violation, unlike Pearl.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

the ncaa is trying to cash in on a big NC game. auburn going down would have been a big hit for them.


Sorry, but no
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:48 pm to
thats a really good question. geez the ncaa is so inconsistent.
Posted by JudgeBoyett
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:49 pm to
Can't really disagree with what he says. I am watching the movie from your avatar picture right now. And yes, Cam is a cotton-headed ninny muggins as was his father before him. I'm sure both are on the naughty list.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:49 pm to
Slive did a solid job covering everything up
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

i think that with the timing of the allegations and auburn being as successful as they are this year the ncaa is trying to cash in on a big NC game. auburn going down would have been a big hit for them.



That's not how the NCAA thinks for one. That may be how some see, but it isn't the case. The NCAA doesn't care about their money as much as the teams following the rules. Ever since Emmert took over he has handled each case properly and efficiently. I don't see this being any other way. Second , The NCAA doesn't even award a NC. The BCS , AP, coaches, and Lee county boys club do.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:49 pm to
you think they rather have tcu in it?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 7:52 pm to
oh well then im probly wrong. im not saying auburn is guilty of anything at all but i just cant wrap my head around how the sec and ncaa handled the situation.
Posted by wahoocs
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:02 pm to
You honestly think money didn't play a part in the decision process?

I have to ask you a serious question. Do you believe in Santa Clause?

How much money was lost due to the Bush findings? Did the PAC-10 or NCAA give money back to anyone?

What did the SEC and NCAA stand to lose if Cam were found not eligible? Give me just your best guess rounded in millions.
Posted by Vince
Danziger Bridge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:15 pm to
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What did the SEC and NCAA stand to lose if Cam were found not eligible?


What would the NCAA stand to lose?

On the other hand, if they declared him ineligible and it was later overturned, then I could easily see the NCAA standing to lose a considerable amount, especially given the precedent from their previous legal battles within the State of Alabama.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85812 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

You honestly think money didn't play a part in the decision process?



Yes, well other than the 200,000+ Cecil received.

quote:

I have to ask you a serious question. Do you believe in Santa Clause?



Why yes I do, and I leave him egg nog and Pralines every year, because I am a good boy !
quote:

How much money was lost due to the Bush findings? Did the PAC-10 or NCAA give money back to anyone?



Do you honestly believe that a monopoly like the NCAA gives two shits about money at this point? They want to give a proper and honest ruling with all the facts. All the other cases took alot of time to investigate. Maybe Auburn isn't cooperating with the NCAA? Idk if they are or aren't but that could definitely slow them down some.

Point is people are ready to thrash the NCAA , but if they give a ruling based on little sufficient evidence then they will sued and could be disbanded. They are not gonna put their names on the line to cover for several Million when the NCAA is a multi billion dollar organization.

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What did the SEC and NCAA stand to lose if Cam were found not eligible? Give me just your best guess rounded in millions.



You really want to ask that? Just think about it for a sec.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 8:19 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22344 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:18 pm to
Emmert handled it properly and efficiently.

Let's collect the money, then deal with it later, if we have to. No different than Slive.

They have left the door open to later reveal any pertinent findings, but they are not in the pertinent findings business, when it results in loss of profits.

They laughed in everyone's face, stuck us in their pocket, fed us farts, until we're old enough to eat shite. Pretty much the same treatment we receive from our lawmakers and politicians.

Look, I want to see Auburn play Oregon with Cam Newton. I've always wanted the SEC to win every year, and a strong Auburn is a strong LSU, IMO. But, I would have been better off not knowing what took place. And, I would have been better off not having my memory refreshed on what took place years ago.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85812 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:23 pm to
I'm done here. There is no point in reasoning with you. I gave you the facts and you ignored them.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44385 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

Point is people are ready to thrash the NCAA , but if they give a ruling based on little sufficient evidence then they will sued and could be disbanded. They are not gonna put their names on the line to cover for several Million when the NCAA is a multi billion dollar organization.



Apparently Uncle Milty has requested to be severed from the other defendants in the gambling trial. If he has cut a deal with the feds and starts talking it could be the beginning of the end for Aubbie.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22344 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:34 pm to
The NCAA's most marketable item.

A Heisman trophy winner playing in the BCSCG.

Sell TV ads with Oregon versus TCU, and tell me the networks are going to be satisfied.

The SEC stood to lose 17 million on one BCS game alone.

If the NCAA declared Cam ineligible, the only thing they stood to gain was integrity. They lose tons of money. I'm not sure how to calculate viewing points and commercial time, etc., but I'm going to guess it's equivalent to the Super Bowl of college athletics.

I'm fine as a fan to allow things to play out. But, I'm insulted and embarrassed to find out the SEC sat on this, and once they reluctantly had to deal with it, the NCAA asked me to believe a kid with his resume of integrity and character, knew nothing about his father's actions, after stating in published articles that he left his decision up to his father.

The only way I'm going to swallow this, is if he goes down Bush style once all interested parties have collected.
Posted by bhelmLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
637 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Emmert also didn't rule out the possibility that emergency legislation could be put in place in January, potentially changing the outcome of the Newton case.


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Posted by Uncle Miltie
Member since Dec 2010
32 posts
Posted on 12/15/10 at 8:40 pm to
T-shirt sales $20 million, DVD sales, $5 million , artwork royalties $10 million, UnderArmour royalties to AU and SEC $15 million, etc. items, mugs, key chains, corn cob wipes, cammy cam juice boxes, magnetic stickers, sleeveless shirts with pocket, $30 million
Close to $100 million.
Posted by bama my heart
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Member since Mar 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 12/16/10 at 10:24 am to
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Emmert also didn't rule out the possibility that emergency legislation could be put in place in January, potentially changing the outcome of the Newton case.
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If this is the case, does that mean that the Cam issue will be grandfathered in and what they did was ok, but now no one else can do it?
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