re: We need to continue to support Freeze

I'm sorry, I read that fast as I do not support coach Freeze. That one is on me my man.

I'm not calling for his head, I think he is the best option right now, but as a CEO TYPE HEAD COACH. He need to hand over the reigns of the offense and stick to managing the program. He needs to hire a good OC and do what he does best, motivate the players, recruit, and run tNetwork. Leave the offense to someone who doesn't think the redzone is fricken playground

Because he thinks he is a genius offensive guru when in reality he is a recruiting, motivating, organizing machine that needs to surround himself with better talent.

Whoever said Ole Miss will never be an title contender or a premier program is an idiot.

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No problemo. I came in hot. Sorry about that.

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CowTownReb

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With a couple more solid recruiting classes to reinforce positions of need and add more blue chip talent, a few changes and additions to staff, Ole Miss could make it to the Playoffs.

Look at Ole Miss now, it is nationally recognized, is consistently in the top 5 (or whatever #) of Blue Chip 5 star recruits.

Ole Miss and Oxford are not difficult to market, all that is left is to continue to pull in solid SEC caliber recruiting classes, and adding serious coaching talent.

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Never say never, bro. Things do change, ya know. There's no rule that says there can't be a new kid on the block. Yeah, things would have to change, but in many ways they already have. More money, more committment, etc. There will be setbacks, but it's headed in the right direction w/o doubt.

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Yeah, I get that. But I've seen so much delusion going back to before Brewer.

The reality of the SEC makes things clearer. If, for example, I suggested Vandy would be national champions -- people would scoff. If I suggested they'd win the SEC, people would scoff. Granted, we are not Vandy, but we're not much better. We're certainly not Bama or Georgia or Auburn, or schools that invest so gratuitously in their programs. We're not worst, but we're not the best. The investment by our school pretty much conveys our station.

People talk about our coaching salary and so on -- but we're still mid-tier for the conference. Classes are mid-tier for the conference. Investments are mid-tier. Thus, the program is mid-tier. And that's where it will remain, because that maximizes the school's investment.

It's all fairly logical and spelled out, if anyone ever chose to look at it with a pragmatic eye. Schools want the least investment for the most return. Winning a conference is not necessary for that to take place; in fact, in a way (because of incentives) it's counter-intuitive.

Most people sort of figure this out as they go along.

That was, of course, one of Cutcliffe's problems.

I mean, don't get me wrong. Ole Miss has made strides, and part of that is due to Bjork actually being a competent AD. Unlike the last guy. Bjork works hard and is far more inclusive to the fanbase.

But it's a race, and Ole Miss is in the middle of the pack. We spend more money on football, but there was a time when we were one of the lowest in the country when it came to football expenditures. That's hurt us, and while that's changed some, it's still a reality. Mississippi is one of the poorest states in the country, if not the poorest. That makes it more difficult. Smaller population pool, as well.

If, for example, we were in another conference without the competition we face -- we'd probably do better. We wouldn't make the money we do obviously, but we'd probably post better records each year. Assuming, of course, we could recruit effectively.

As for Patterson, he doesn't recruit nearly as well as people think. When they were in the MWC, they were left with the scraps and had to coach those scraps to prominence. Yet, they still managed to go undefeated and win the Rose Bowl. A BCS bowl, no less. Boise State played in two. TCU played in two. Ole Miss never played in one.

Those are the types of obstacles we face.

And in the context of the Western Division, where would you rank us? We're not on par with Bama, Auburn, or LSU. Perhaps not even with A&M, in terms of university or fan commitment.

So, that leaves us next to MSU and Arkansas.

Pretty much right where I said from the beginning.

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It's irrelevant if you call me Reb or not. I sincerely hope you didn't graduate from Ole Miss, as your grammar is atrocious. Talk about low personal goals -- I suggest remedial English.

The point I have made is that Ole Miss has been a non-factor when it comes to national championships for over five decades. I hate to break it to you, but that's not simply bad luck. There are logical reasons. You dismiss definitive history outright and believe salvation is inexplicably within our reach. Floating somewhere in the ether like pixie dust, probably riding a unicorn through Valhalla as it waves a flag of Steve Sloan's head.

I understand the cause and effect aspect of our dynamic. You, however, will likely continue to engage in sunshine enema nonsense; delusional thinking whereby we could somehow overcome the insurmountable obstacles in our path. Whereas I simply understand them and accept things for what they are. You know, somewhat based in reality.

No serious people would want to see Freeze go. He has put the best recruiting and on the field play (considering where he started) year over year. Does he make bad decisions, sure, all coaches do and he is still young. But for 2 years straight we are in the national conversation. If you are going to cry over the fact that we have not won the natty yet than you need to just calm down. That takes time and luck. The program is the best I have seen it and I am still excited.

You now the program is improved when the team is 4-1 with Bama and Florida in the rear view and fans are in meltdown mode.