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re: Someone tell me why we shouldn’t offer Mike Leach $4.5m/yr to coach the Rebals?

Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:56 pm to
Hell, I’d take Jordan Rodgers out of the booth to replace Luke..smart, understands the game really well and played at Vandy where he did more with less
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26531 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:01 pm to
Lolwut

Jordan Rodgers has never coached a football team . . . at any level, yet you wanna give him the keys to an SEC squad?

Not sure if srs
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13581 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:03 pm to
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Pac 12 outside of Utah and Cal don't play defense




https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22

Washington State plays defense but please don’t let facts ruin the narrative


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Throw the ball a million times and play no defense.



Leach has shown what that system can do with a competent coach at the helm. You can set offensive records and have top 25 defenses even with all the extra plays per game. And he’s done it with lower talent than his counterparts. He’s exactly what we need. If he can get top 25 classes and occasionally swing a top 15 or 10 class here and there he will reset every record at Ole miss.

Surely he’s a competitive guy too, I bet deep down he wonders if he can cut it going up against the Sabans and others in the SEC every week. Would love him with an ole miss polo on at SEC media days. We would sell out of season tickets so fast next year.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26531 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:08 pm to
I don’t get people who say that. Their defense is just fine.

Washington State gives up 22 points per game and we give up 40.

They don’t play defense tho. Right.

K.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13581 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:16 pm to
WIki says he makes 3.5 a year. Pay him 4.5 or 5 and call it a deal. Get the man to Oxford ASAP and sell some damn tickets
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13581 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:37 pm to
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He sucks at recruiting. He's worse than Luke at recruiting.

The talent he has gotten would get destroyed in this league




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When he was OC at Kentucky:

“Four NCAA, 42 SEC, and 116 school records broken as Kentucky's offensive coordinator”

At Tech:

“53–11 record at Jones AT&T Stadium, home of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team

2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year[29]

2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year[30]

Coached 1 Fred Biletnikoff Award (Best Wide Receiver) winner: Michael Crabtree (two-time winner)

Coached 1 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award (Best Senior Quarterback) winner: Graham Harrell

Coached 1 Mosi Tatupu Award (Best Kick Returner) winner: Wes Welker

Coached 3 Sammy Baugh Trophy (Outstanding Quarterback) winners: Kliff Kingsbury, B.J. Symons, and Graham Harrell

More than 150 NCAA, Big 12 and school records broken as Texas Tech's head coach[5]

All-time winningest football coach in Texas Tech history[77]”



He did all of the above with a bunch of 3 stars. We are scoring 17 points with 4 and 5 stars right now.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68516 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:50 pm to
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Somewhat OT but college coaches shouldn't earn 4.5m
Considering how much money they generate, they are actually underpaid.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1020 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:27 pm to
I do think they are overpaid when the hiring bar is lowered to "how much do you love Ole Miss", here's 3 million a year.
Posted by TSUNRebel
DeSoto County
Member since May 2014
560 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:50 pm to
I wouldn't be opposed to a Mike Leach hire. I think his offensive philosophy is going to bring in talent. I have actually watched WSU play and their defense is well coached. I would hope he would bring his defensive coordinator with him.

Unfortunately I think we get another year of Luke with at least a new defensive coordinator. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we replaced the offensive coordinator.

I could see Leach gettingt mad if they finish the season with only 1 loss and don't make the playoffs. Maybe he would think beating Bama would get him to the championship.


Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:56 pm to
Any of us would be ecstatic over a Leach hiring.. he isn’t coming here..just go get Bill Clark while he is still available..our athletic dept is run like the VA
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6238 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:06 pm to
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He did all of the above with a bunch of 3 stars. We are scoring 17 points with 4 and 5 stars right now.


This X1000
Posted by TSUNRebel
DeSoto County
Member since May 2014
560 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:20 pm to
Look, if it was up to me. I would hire Freeze and give the NCAA a big middle finger.

We got totally screwed by the way we handled the investigation. The NCAA came to frick up our program. W should have handled as an attack and fought tooth and nail.

The way Moncrief was investigated, should have been their clue how this thing was going to go down.

Now the only way to prove the NCAA, SEC, MSU, Mullens and the AD conspired, rest on the ability of RR to uncover this in their lawsuit. If the depositions don't look great for the NCAA they will attempt to settle before too much is leaked out to the public.

I would like to follow up on the FBI information on the shoe companies. I find it hard to believe Prescott stays for his senior year without some help from someone at Addidas. I find it funny that he still wears his Addidas while the Cowboys are a Nike sponsored team. I see Jerry Jones is being very critical do Dak's play this year. Maybe Dak made his deal with the devil and can't get out of it now.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:37 pm to
Leach has never coached in the SEC and there is a reason why. He cant recruit. Systems with no talent dont work in this league.

Now to the questions some of you clowns asked.

Who has recruited better to Washington St? Leach has averaged a recruiting class somewhere around 47. Classes of 45, 44, 56, 42, 53, 50, and 58. Bill Doba had classes of 51, 22, 43, and 45. Much better recruiting than Leach ranking wise.

Who wins like Leach at Washington St? Leach is at .546, Doba .508, Price .518, and Ereckson .543. Leach is essentially doing what has been the norm at that school.

Wait they are 9-1 currently... they lost to 5-5 USC. The best win is against a 7-3 Utah team.

Facts. Not opinions.

Leach has finished 1st in his division once. 2008... yeah the year he lost to a Houston Nutt lead Ole Miss.

The guy would suck in this league worst than Luke because he couldn't recruit in this league. The same reason I didnt want Luke. Recruiting wins this league not gimmick schemes.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17474 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 10:44 pm to
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He has a Heisman finalist QB . . . . from Olive Branch of all places.


Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46481 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 11:23 pm to
I’ll give you one reason why not it’ll make RebelGator right about the coaching search
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68516 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 12:21 am to
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Classes of 45, 44, 56, 42, 53, 50, and 58
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Bill Doba had classes of 51, 22, 43, and 45. Much better recruiting than Leach ranking wise.
He had one year better than Leach. That's it.

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Who wins like Leach at Washington St? Leach is at .546, Doba .508, Price .518, and Ereckson .543. Leach is essentially doing what has been the norm at that school.
Go back and look at what he inherited. And he still has the highest win percentage in school history
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Wait they are 9-1 currently... they lost to 5-5 USC. The best win is against a 7-3 Utah team.

So they are winning against teams they are supposed to and let one average team sneak up on them. It happens. We did that same thing to Bama in 2014
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Leach has finished 1st in his division once. 2008... yeah the year he lost to a Houston Nutt lead Ole Miss.
That Houston Nutt team had 2 first round draft picks and 4 future pro-bowlers on it. And that Tech team wasn't thrilled about playing an 8-4 team when they felt they got cheated out of the BCS.
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The guy would suck in this league worst than Luke because he couldn't recruit in this league. The same reason I didnt want Luke. Recruiting wins this league not gimmick schemes.

There's no evidence to say he wouldn't recruit well with the same support from boosters that Freeze got.

Saying that he is on the same level as Matt Luke is just hilariously inaccurate
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26531 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:26 am to
Leach coached at Kentucky in 97-98, and they set several conference records for passing proficiency, but k.

You’re whining about leach finishing first in his division just once . . . when it’s something we have never done.

They are 9-1 and control their own destiny to win their conference. We are 5-5 and dawgs to Vandy. Sure, they might lose to their rival Washington next week, but 10-2 beats mediocrity all day.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 6:55 am to
That's alot of records broken for a 5-6 team that finished 2-6 in the conference. I'm calling BS.

There is no question he would be a better x and o coach than Luke. But he sucks at recruiting. We would still have the same problem we have now. Not enough talent to beat anyone. And you think defense is bad now, defensive recruits aren't trying to play for Leach.

I get people are frustrated. But Leach would suck in the SEC.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 7:01 am to
You just made 100 excuses for a guy who hs never coached as a HC in this league but somehow Luke who inherited a team in the middle of probation with 65 scholarship players isnt afforded that same level of BS excuses you just made.

Recruit at the same level as Freeze? GTFOH! Coach O said himself Freeze is the only recruiter he has EVER seen better than him. Leach ain't that and never has been. You're crazy if you think Tech boosters aren't paying for players. Its freaking Texas.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26531 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 7:02 am to
Do you not remember Tim Couch? Leach was his OC at UK.

The 1998 UK Wildcats finished 7-5 with an Outback Bowl loss. Sure as Hell beats the shite we put out now.

Again, Wazzou’s defense is light years better than ours, but keep that narrative rolling, bubba. They give up 22 points per game this year, and we give up 40.
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