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re: Why do we call terrorists cowards?

Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:00 pm to
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I care because thinking of them as cowards is dangerously ignorant.





Okay.


We are fully apprised now of these brave awesome threatening goat fricking Islamatards.


We shall be ever vigilant and watchful from now on. We see the errors of our calling them cowards and the risk we placed 'Muricah in.


Can I still call the French a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys? Or, will that cause this nation to crumble, also?
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:01 pm to
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morality is relative


ok


quote:

is



oops
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:01 pm to
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You said Maher got fired for comparing them to America yet you did the same thing in this thread and then said you didn't.


I compared their resolve to ours. I did not call us cowards, which Maher did.

You are being intentionally obtuse.
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:01 pm to
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Dismissing cowards is easy. Americans have largely dismissed radical Islam as a problem for the ME.

If we actually believed they werent cowards, but dedicated members of an ideology that cant be easily killed with threats of military force, then we would be forced to see them for what they are : A long term threat to western civilization.

Dusmissing them as weak cowards who will fold when faced with death and destruction is dangerous to society. I care because thinking of them as cowards is dangerously ignorant.


That's all sounds nice but what are you actually calling for? Flesh out your ideas.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:04 pm to
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That's all sounds nice but what are you actually calling for? Flesh out your ideas.


Scene 1:

frick those cowardly islamist terrorist jackals!

Dangerous. America may fall


Scene 2:

frick those brave (or, at least dedicated) islamist terrorist jackals!

Accepted. America may sleep well and safe
Posted by Mizzou4ever
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:04 pm to
Sometimes a person can be too book smart for their own good.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:05 pm to
I want the populace as a whole to wake up an actively take an interest in this issue, instead of just blowing it off as a foreign conflict driven by cowards who would never stan up to the US directly.

The people in Europe are starting to wake up. Hopefully it wont take us as long as it did them.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 7:06 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:07 pm to
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I want the populace as a whole to wake up an actively take an interest in this issue,


Roger Klarvin Revere?


One if by Sunni, Two if by Shi'a
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:09 pm to
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They "hide" behind Islam the same way soldiers "hide" behind the military.


dafuq?
Posted by genro
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Calvin Candie
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:10 pm to
Because "we" like to speak poorly of the enemy.

/thread

I hope you didn't put a lot of thought in this.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:11 pm to
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dafuq?





It's like he's that kid in kindergarten that throws a fit if we all want to call the little red haired girl "Cootie Head" and he INSIST that the club adopt "Poo Poo Head" instead.


Its silliness. But, it seems really important that we adopt his wording
Posted by KSGamecock
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:12 pm to
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I want the populace as a whole to wake up an actively take an interest in this issue, instead of just blowing it off as a foreign conflict driven by cowards who would never stan up to the US directly.

The people in Europe are starting to wake up. Hopefully it wont take us as long as it did them.


...and their interest in the issue will drive what kind of action? A confrontation?

That's exactly what the "terrorists" want. LINK

quote:

An Islamic Caliphate in Seven Easy Steps

In the introduction, the Jordanian journalist writes, "I interviewed a whole range of al-Qaida members with different ideologies to get an idea of how the war between the terrorists and Washington would develop in the future." What he then describes between pages 202 and 213 is a scenario, proof both of the terrorists' blindness as well as their brutal single-mindedness. In seven phases the terror network hopes to establish an Islamic caliphate which the West will then be too weak to fight.



The First Phase Known as "the awakening" -- this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims. "The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaida as very successful," writes Hussein. "The battle field was opened up and the Americans and their allies became a closer and easier target." The terrorist network is also reported as being satisfied that its message can now be heard "everywhere."


The Second Phase "Opening Eyes" is, according to Hussein's definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein says the terrorists hope to make the western conspiracy aware of the "Islamic community." Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement. The network is banking on recruiting young men during this period. Iraq should become the center for all global operations, with an "army" set up there and bases established in other Arabic states.


The Third Phase This is described as "Arising and Standing Up" and should last from 2007 to 2010. "There will be a focus on Syria," prophesies Hussein, based on what his sources told him. The fighting cadres are supposedly already prepared and some are in Iraq. Attacks on Turkey and -- even more explosive -- in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida's masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization. The author also believes that countries neighboring Iraq, such as Jordan, are also in danger.


The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. The estimate is that "the creeping loss of the regimes' power will lead to a steady growth in strength within al-Qaida." At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.


The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.


The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.


The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as "definitive victory." Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years.


That's from an article written back in 2005 about Al Qaeda's master plan and Daesh is child organization of AQ. They want to force a show down and divide the world between Muslims and non-Muslims. They want Westerners to think exactly like you're thinking because the policies that thinking produces drive more and more fence sitting Muslims into their ranks.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:24 pm to
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It's like he's that kid in kindergarten that throws a fit if we all want to call the little red haired girl "Cootie Head" and he INSIST that the club adopt "Poo Poo Head" instead.


Its silliness. But, it seems really important that we adopt his wording


I feel like he's trolling me.

I need to go grab a pen and paper for notetaking. Brb
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:25 pm to
I was pointing out the absurdity of saying radicals hide behind Islam, not insulting soldiers. The point was that soldiers DONT hide behind the military or their country but are stabding for something they believein.
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 7:26 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:26 pm to
***scribbles furiously***

ETA: ***grabs white out, jots down the edit***
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:28 pm to
- Trolly topic
- Frequent spelling errors
- Illogical and poorly nuanced argument

Roger has been hacked.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:28 pm to
And my point is that such a conflict is inevitable.

A war between Islam and everyone else is absolutely coming. The next 50-100 years are going to set the stage for it.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 3/19/15 at 7:33 pm to
Getting a few of their boys together and calling out a platoon of Marines for a little gunplay would be considered brave.

Gunning down a bunch of school children in Beslan is pretty cowardly.
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