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re: What drugs do you think should be legal?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:23 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think a regulating system would work for the most part. I'm not a fan of it, but I think it would give most people enough incentive to not operate on the black market if penalties are in place for non-regulated products.
People will be able to openly get high, so why risk it by buying from a black market?
People will be able to openly get high, so why risk it by buying from a black market?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:03 pm to TX Tiger
We'll you would bring up a valid point, except that none of the drugs we are talkin about are natural which would preclude them from being appropriates avenues of selection. They are designed to trigger all the chemicals in your brain which are typically triggered by doing good shite for you. Sure there are natural substances around which trigger the same receptors. But now it is all packed into a skittle sized ball of fun which is much, much more powerful
I don't think it is a good idea at all, just look at the recent history of opiate abuse, usage and overdoses have been skyrocketing for the last couple decades. Making this shite legal does very few if anybody much good.
And it's not like you can ever go back on this legislation and take away everyone's medicine at that point.
I don't think it is a good idea at all, just look at the recent history of opiate abuse, usage and overdoses have been skyrocketing for the last couple decades. Making this shite legal does very few if anybody much good.
And it's not like you can ever go back on this legislation and take away everyone's medicine at that point.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:17 pm to AUbagman
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People will be able to openly get high, so why risk it by buying from a black market?
Regulations limiting how much a person can have, how much they can buy in a month? Taxing the hell out of it? It will lead to a healthy black market.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:20 pm to motionmagic
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"cannabis addicts receiving treatment for their habit," This quote invalidates the entire article.
Only if you are an idiot who doesn't understand the word "habit" and you have no concept of dependence and how it is measured. Sure.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Regulations limiting how much a person can have, how much they can buy in a month? Taxing the hell out of it? It will lead to a healthy black market.
I don't think the average drug user will flock to the black market if given the option. Sure, there will be outliers as with anything, but overall, I think people will choose the option where they have the least to worry about.
I say all this not as a fan of regulation, just as an individual that understands it will never be an unregulated market in the U.S. The regulated decriminalized market is much better than the current situation.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:43 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Here is an article on what has happened to the black market for pot in Colorado
Yeah, taxation will create a black market for sure. I think it was naive of them to believe people would pay more for recreational weed instead of trying to secure a prescription. I think tax rates could be tweaked to pull some away from the black market, but regardless, it will never fully go away.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 7:09 am to 870Hog
Weed most definitely. There are so many pro legalization for recreation use billboards all over Vegas, the people here are counting the days till it happens.
I am curious as to whether the vape shops will eventually be allowed to sell it cause there's been a massive explosion of new vape shops on every block here. Each time I walk into a vape shop there's usually very few customers so it's odd to see so many of them opening up all over the area.
I am curious as to whether the vape shops will eventually be allowed to sell it cause there's been a massive explosion of new vape shops on every block here. Each time I walk into a vape shop there's usually very few customers so it's odd to see so many of them opening up all over the area.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:54 am to 870Hog
Pentobarbital. You should try it. In quantity.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 10:36 am to AUbagman
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They'll still make it, the legality doesn't matter. Have it out in the open. You can regulate it, but I'd rather not have Billy Bob cooking his batch in his trailer full of kids. You can keep harsh penalties on those that buy unregulated, that would give people the incentive to not go to Billy Bob, and Billy Bob would disappear.
Not being an arse here, but are you suggesting that the government make and distribute meth because it'd be better than a random hick making it?
Perhaps I missed the point.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 11:33 am to SouthMSReb
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Not being an arse here, but are you suggesting that the government make and distribute meth because it'd be better than a random hick making it?
Perhaps I missed the point.
No, I'm not suggesting the government make/distribute anything, just decriminalize it.
I suggested regulating through sellers as a means to cut down on meth labs. My main point is, even draconian laws don't stop people from using and never will. The current approach has accomplished nothing but capital destruction, militarized police, and establishment of healthy black markets.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:41 pm to AUbagman
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Yeah, taxation will create a black market for sure. I think it was naive of them to believe people would pay more for recreational weed instead of trying to secure a prescription. I think tax rates could be tweaked to pull some away from the black market, but regardless, it will never fully go away.
Heavily regulating and taxing isn't going to fix the problem. It's going to keep many users from getting busted but it will not fix the black market problem.
I've always hated that reason for legalization. It should be legalized because the govt. shouldn't tell you what you can and can't consume.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 3:52 pm to 870Hog
What part of the US Constitution gives the government the right to regulate drugs?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 4:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I've always hated that reason for legalization. It should be legalized because the govt. shouldn't tell you what you can and can't consume.
I agree, the government should have no role. My arguments aren't based off my ideology, they're based on the feasibility of the event happening. You know as well as I do that the government will never exit the picture, so why not talk about realistic outcomes?
Posted on 3/17/15 at 8:07 pm to the808bass
"cannabis addicts" and "habit" are not the same.
They include both descriptions in the same sentence.
I disagree with you argument and I'm an idiot?
They include both descriptions in the same sentence.
I disagree with you argument and I'm an idiot?
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