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re: What drugs do you think should be legal?
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:08 pm to the808bass
Posted on 3/10/15 at 11:08 pm to the808bass
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You're an idiot.
And you're a close-minded, smug, cancer.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:06 am to AUbagman
I read an article about Portugal a little while back. I think there is data from many countries that would make it easier for us to adopt should we choose. I know many that have the mindset that drug legalization doesn't affect them because they don't do drugs, but it absolutely does when you consider taxes, prisons, etc.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:55 am to Robert Goulet
No they shouldn't be legal, that would shake the country to its core. "Survival of the fittest" would result in a bunch of young people dead before they get a chance to make a difference.
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^^ says more intelligent people do more drugs. Also consider the recent case Florida and their former lack of prescription drug laws. The mass quantities of hardcore painkillers prescribed in Florida made their way through the southern, and eastern regions of the country getting everyday people to essentially take heroin. Once the state had a regulated medication system, the availability of pills went down a heroin use has shot up generally across the board since that time.
Let's also think about the consequences from a realistic availability and pattern of use. Some upper teens want to try something, the pills that all the soccer moms bought illegally in 2010 (OC) are now completely legal with an age limit. I think we can all attest that it wasn't hard to buy some alcohol or find it in some fashion. They buy enough to get their fix incurring 1) possibility of overdose due to simple ignorance of the strength of the drug and 2) addiction, which physically can begin to take place in less than 1 weeks use (for a first timer, that could be as few as 2 - 3 pills of the old formulation). And if it goes on for multiple months the addicted has to go through a week - 10 days of hell to flush his system, months for their brain chemistry to re-align and the long term withdrawal effects to subside
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^^ says more intelligent people do more drugs. Also consider the recent case Florida and their former lack of prescription drug laws. The mass quantities of hardcore painkillers prescribed in Florida made their way through the southern, and eastern regions of the country getting everyday people to essentially take heroin. Once the state had a regulated medication system, the availability of pills went down a heroin use has shot up generally across the board since that time.
Let's also think about the consequences from a realistic availability and pattern of use. Some upper teens want to try something, the pills that all the soccer moms bought illegally in 2010 (OC) are now completely legal with an age limit. I think we can all attest that it wasn't hard to buy some alcohol or find it in some fashion. They buy enough to get their fix incurring 1) possibility of overdose due to simple ignorance of the strength of the drug and 2) addiction, which physically can begin to take place in less than 1 weeks use (for a first timer, that could be as few as 2 - 3 pills of the old formulation). And if it goes on for multiple months the addicted has to go through a week - 10 days of hell to flush his system, months for their brain chemistry to re-align and the long term withdrawal effects to subside
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 7:59 am
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:28 am to derSturm37
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METHamphetamine is the only one that'll do you then it could be manufactured pharmaceutically and regulated.
Desoxyn
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:17 am to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:And these are the folks who would otherwise qualify for "Survival of the fittest?"
No they shouldn't be legal, that would shake the country to its core. "Survival of the fittest" would result in a bunch of young people dead before they get a chance to make a difference.
1) possibility of overdose due to simple ignorance of the strength of the drug and
2) addiction, which physically can begin to take place in less than 1 weeks use (for a first timer, that could be as few as 2 - 3 pills of the old formulation).
Sounds logical.
You're probably right, without government saving us from ourselves, the fittest among us would never survive.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:19 am to Agforlife
quote:Which is why it will never happen.
All of them. It would collapse so many large corporations
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:27 am to TX Tiger
Marijuana is on its way. That is just a fact. Any argument against marijuana can be made against cigs and booze, of which both are legal.
Pain pills are readily available, same with amphetamines like adderall or vyvanse.
Cocaine is prevalent and widely accepted in many places.
I just don't know where you can draw the line.
Pain pills are readily available, same with amphetamines like adderall or vyvanse.
Cocaine is prevalent and widely accepted in many places.
I just don't know where you can draw the line.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:35 am to CheeseburgerEddie
It's so easy to obtain drugs now as a young person with prohibition. Legalization wouldn't change much on the usage front IMO.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:14 pm to 870Hog
Pot
Cocaine
shrooms
adderall
opiates in small doses
Cocaine
shrooms
adderall
opiates in small doses
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:17 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I think there are plenty of drugs we can let people enjoy and still keep meth illegal.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:32 pm to 870Hog
All of them. Treat addiction for what it is: a health issue. Various intoxication laws already handle being drunk or high and criminally stupid or dangerous.
Regulate it, tax it, and penalize the frick out of anyone who sells to kids. The biggest failure of American foreign and domestic policy has been this costly and fruitless drug war of ours. It's past time to try a different strategy.
Regulate it, tax it, and penalize the frick out of anyone who sells to kids. The biggest failure of American foreign and domestic policy has been this costly and fruitless drug war of ours. It's past time to try a different strategy.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 3:35 pm to Prof
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Regulate it, tax it,
This is the part that gets me. I'm looking at the boondoggle Washington went through and now Alaska is going through on this regulating and taxing phase.
Just let people use what they want to use, whenever they want to use it without overburdening society with more complex regulations that will not fix the problem of the black market.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Regulate it, tax it,
This is the part that gets me. I'm looking at the boondoggle Washington went through and now Alaska is going through on this regulating and taxing phase.
Just let people use what they want to use, whenever they want to use it without overburdening society with more complex regulations that will not fix the problem of the black market.
I don't have a real problem with that but there's no way anything gets legalized without getting taxed -- they just won't do it. Colorado and Cali did a lot better with those phases but Washington state has been a clusterfrick. As for regulations, I'm thinking age limits are necessary the same as with alcohol or tobacco.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:58 pm to nc14
Kind of f'ed up that you can kill a baby inside you, but can't burn and inhale the smoke from a natural growing plant in most states.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:06 pm to the808bass
"cannabis addicts receiving treatment for their habit,"
This quote invalidates the entire article.
This quote invalidates the entire article.
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