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re: Trump’s Tax Cuts Would Add $24.5 Trillion to the Debt
Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:45 pm to olddawg26
Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:45 pm to olddawg26
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Is this similar to the trickle down economics that worked so well before?
Although trickle down economics(also called Reaganomics) is a vague term, in theory it does work. See economy post Reagan, it was booming.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 1:55 pm to NYCAuburn
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His plan, while not perfect, gets rid of itemized deductions and depends on increased taxable monies. The horrible article makes a bunch of horrible assumptions and doesnt account for that.
FTR, I am not a trump fan
I don't understand why dems never account for growth. The business model is of expansion, you cut taxes majority of businesses will expand (hire more people). Less unemployed, more paying taxes.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:00 pm to bayoumuscle21
While I'm not a dem but I can tell you growth is not an unlimited thing. It requires more of every resource and creates more waste and pollution. The only thing that grows forever is cancer.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:03 pm to MIZ_COU
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While I'm not a dem but I can tell you growth is not an unlimited thing. It requires more of every resource and creates more waste and pollution. The only thing that grows forever is cancer.
Lol up voted btw. If we stay on this track our national debt will forever increase, we have a desperate need for radical growth.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:13 pm to VolFanInCzechRep
Republican shitheaads up in this thread
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:22 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Republican shitheaads up in this thread
I'm your huckleberry.
Why am I Republican? I think there should be limited hand outs. I think lower taxes stimulates growth. I think liberals are pc vaginas who are closing in on taking away our freedom of speech. I think I have the right to defend myself. I think the Constitution should be upheld.
Lot more but I'll stop there.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 2:50 pm to bayoumuscle21
I was being sarcastic. Keep going.
Other than gay marriage and marijuana prohibition I agree with the republican platform. They shouldn't allow government to get involved in marriage or whatever plant I choose to smoke in my own home.
Other than gay marriage and marijuana prohibition I agree with the republican platform. They shouldn't allow government to get involved in marriage or whatever plant I choose to smoke in my own home.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/23/16 at 3:07 pm to Gradual_Stroke
Sooooo you're saying you will vote Democrat, even though you agree with all those things excluding social issues?
It's truly a question btw, nit implying anything.
It's truly a question btw, nit implying anything.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 3:25 pm to bayoumuscle21
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Sooooo you're saying you will vote Democrat, even though you agree with all those things excluding social issues?
i think there are a lot more republicans (i use that term loosely... maybe economic libertarians) in the world than know that they are.
Morons on the GOP side can't get past the fact that gay marriage and drugs are here or are coming.
But neither can the people who won't vote that way because the party doesn't support those two things despite supporting 90% of their other beliefs.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/23/16 at 3:26 pm to bayoumuscle21
reality is indeed a bitch
Posted on 1/23/16 at 3:53 pm to 3nOut
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i think there are a lot more republicans (i use that term loosely... maybe economic libertarians) in the world than know that they are.
Morons on the GOP side can't get past the fact that gay marriage and drugs are here or are coming.
But neither can the people who won't vote that way because the party doesn't support those two things despite supporting 90% of their other beliefs.
Well, personally I think homosexuality is a mental issue and/or a choice, which both are fine (maybe not the mental issue part but whatever) . I'm not educated on the issue, but it's against natural logic so that's where I find my opinion. Saying that, I can't tell people what to do.
Secondly, drugs are such a fine line, I think if a state wants to legalize Marijuana fine. But if a privately owned company wants to drug test and fail one because of Marijuana, that's there right, and I agree with that as well.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:15 pm to bayoumuscle21
How much will military spending be cut under the Trump plan?
I bet little to none because "small government conservatives" really are only opposed to some types of government. Feeding the poor is bad but building a new fleet of nuclear bombers that we wont ever use is
I bet little to none because "small government conservatives" really are only opposed to some types of government. Feeding the poor is bad but building a new fleet of nuclear bombers that we wont ever use is
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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How much will military spending be cut under the Trump plan?
I bet little to none because "small government conservatives" really are only opposed to some types of government. Feeding the poor is bad but building a new fleet of nuclear bombers that we wont ever use is
You're obviously ignorant. We don't think feeding the poor is bad, we think people on lifelong welfare and food stamps has got to stop. Fact is a big majority of people on handouts are manipulating the system. Which falls into the cutting taxes will create more jobs, provoke entrepreneurs, and therefore decrease unemployment and poverty.
Making welfare and food stamps for able-bodied people who don't want to work more difficult to receive is another part, drug testing, community service all needs to be a part of this program.
O and btw, most Christians are Republicans, and most soup kitchens are funded by... You guessed it Christians.
So congratulations, you are a ignorant sheeple who listens to what daddy Obama tells you.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:28 pm to VolFanInCzechRep
quote:I hate Trump. But debt is created by spending too much money.
Trump’s Tax Cuts Would Add $24.5 Trillion to the Debt
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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bet little to none because "small government conservatives" really are only opposed to some types of government.
Straight up bullshite, and quite frankly, it's a false narrative that's boring at this point.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 1:17 am to VolFanInCzechRep
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steep cuts in spending and entitlement programs,
No one should be entitled to a damn thing unless you are contributing to society.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 8:50 am to 3nOut
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it's not semantics in the least.
if i make 10k a month, have 500k in debt and have to spend 6k to keep the doors open then that's the status quo. it's a crappy status quo, but it is what is is.
if i start making 7k a month, that doesn't mean my debt and expenditures every month went up. it just means i have less money to pay off the 500k. to say it adds to the debt is a lie.
But that is an a dishonest example
It goes more like this in reality
We take in 10,000 a month and 6k needs to go pay debt, the only issue is our overhead is 20,000 per month so we not only barely pay the note we add 10,000 of debt per month.
Lowering income by 1,000 essentially adds 1,000 of debt per month.
your statement would only be correct if the budget was balanced or in the black.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:16 am to bayoumuscle21
quote:Cool. Let's raise the full time minimum wage to $12, make full employment mandatory, and eliminate welfare. Problem solved.
we think people on lifelong welfare and food stamps has got to stop.
This post was edited on 1/24/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/24/16 at 3:46 pm to bayoumuscle21
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I don't understand why dems never account for growth.
Odd statement. Most tax plans are CBO scored and that office does three growth projections on any bill sent to them. The CBO is also non-partisan so even if they didn't do growth projections it wouldn't be democrats not accounting for growth. If you're referring to non-CBO assessments of growth, I can't say I've ever seen left leaning economists fail to account for growth in assessing tax plans.
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we think people on lifelong welfare and food stamps has got to stop
This doesn't exist.
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You're obviously ignorant.
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So congratulations, you are a ignorant sheeple who listens to what daddy Obama tells you.
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:51 pm to MIZ_COU
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The point being, simpleton, that 20 years does not buy itself make something meaningless. That's nearly 1 trillion a year since you seem to be having trouble doing the math.
20 years of a projected budget from a hypothetical plan for a president who will serve at most 8 years, (if he's ever even elected) is indeed nonsense. If they'd have used 10 years, I'd be far more interested.
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you type these words
Then stop saying dumb stuff. It's not that hard. You went for a cheap response and failed with a bad analogy.
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