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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:32 am to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:32 am to heartbreakTiger
Man white people love killing other white people. Black people love killing other black people. Asians love killing other Asians.
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:33 am to Duke
people just love killing people
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:38 am to heartbreakTiger
Fact.
They do something different than us! Eradicate them. It's a bloody miracle we haven't ended the world yet.
They do something different than us! Eradicate them. It's a bloody miracle we haven't ended the world yet.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:42 am to Duke
Magma doesn't kill. Magma understands.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:07 pm to Duke
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Daisy cutters? Over a densely populated area? Makes it an outright certainty they lose all support outside of those Americans who think all Muslims are terrorists.
That's the thing about these asymmetrical wars, the side with power can't just go bombing civilians. People will notice. People will get angry and give Hamas a PR leg to stand on. The rest of the Arab states are busy with their own conflicts. Massacring civilians would likely get them way more invovled. If Israel really wants to hit Hamas with a death blow, it's gotta be surgically done.
Who cares what the media thinks at this point? Dropping daisy cutters like carpet bombing, talking out the Gaza Strip and then moving up and doing the same thing throughout the new ISIS controlled territory in Syria and Iraq ... it would send a message. We're tired of the bullshite. Tired of the constant terrorist attacks on peaceful peoples. Tired of all the instability it causes around the world. Screw'em. Radical Islam is totally outta hand and it's time to just smack'em down hard and put;em outta of their misery. This crap has been going-on for too long.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:09 pm to scrooster
I still think bombing the Ka'aba is an underrated solution.
Just one tiny little cruise missile.
Just one tiny little cruise missile.
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:16 pm to scrooster
There are over 1 million people in Gaza. You're calling to murder them to send radical Islam a message? What message is that? That Israel and the West are mass murders?
Israel and the USA aren't ready for the blowback such drastic actions would cause. The whole Arab world would take up arms actively against Israel. Any support in Europe would be gone and it would be hard to convince the Americans to come help after that. Israel has an advanced military but they don't have the numbers to deal with the swift and angry reaction.
Hence why they aren't going to do it, outside of the morally reprehensible side of it.
Israel and the USA aren't ready for the blowback such drastic actions would cause. The whole Arab world would take up arms actively against Israel. Any support in Europe would be gone and it would be hard to convince the Americans to come help after that. Israel has an advanced military but they don't have the numbers to deal with the swift and angry reaction.
Hence why they aren't going to do it, outside of the morally reprehensible side of it.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:23 pm to scrooster
Dumbass
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:08 pm to Duke
There would be no blowback.
The Arab world would cower. Most of the Arabs hate the people who live in Gaza anyway.
There would be no one left in Gaza to get revenge.
Killing every Gazan is the only way the conflict will end.
The Arab world would cower. Most of the Arabs hate the people who live in Gaza anyway.
There would be no one left in Gaza to get revenge.
Killing every Gazan is the only way the conflict will end.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:21 pm to samson'sseed
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There would be no blowback.
From killing over a million people because they've had rockets shot at them? You think there would be no consequences?
America at that point washes it's hands of Israel. So do any allies they have in Europe. That's the sort of action that would have people up in arms, ready to sweep in and get revenge. You can't kill millions in this day without consequence.
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Killing every Gazan is the only way the conflict will end.
Do you believe that should be Israel's course of action here?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:22 pm to Duke
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The USA stops sending any aid and military toys. Then announces they won't help Israel if attacked by neighbors. Imposes economic sanctions. Israel still exists in large part thanks to USA and Euro backing.
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The U.S. will never stop giving Israel aid no matter what Israel does. Don't make me laugh. Americans and Europeans never spilled 1 oz of blood defending Israel.
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Somebody calls out Israel possibly abusing their power, they just hate Jews huh? I'm sure you feel the same way about a Muslim "defending themselves". The detractors just hate Muslims and are racist. Right?
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Israel is not abusing its power. You are proving your anti-semitism by accusing the Jews of abusing their power when they defend themselves. You are an anti-semite.
The Gazans are not defending themselves...they are the ones who started this war. They are the attackers, the terrorists. To claim they are defending themselves is a joke.
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By that logic every American is a liberal Democrat because Obama was elected.
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When push comes to shove, the U.S. is a liberal socialist country. Even when Republicans had control of all 3 branches of government a decade ago, they didn't dare even partially privatize Social Security.
All Gazans are terrorists. They all favor the destruction of Israel. Therefore, ironically, the only solution would be for Israel to unleash a "Final Solution" on the Gazans.
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The USA stops sending any aid and military toys. Then announces they won't help Israel if attacked by neighbors. Imposes economic sanctions. Israel still exists in large part thanks to USA and Euro backing.
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The U.S. will never stop giving Israel aid no matter what Israel does. Don't make me laugh. Americans and Europeans never spilled 1 oz of blood defending Israel.
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Somebody calls out Israel possibly abusing their power, they just hate Jews huh? I'm sure you feel the same way about a Muslim "defending themselves". The detractors just hate Muslims and are racist. Right?
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Israel is not abusing its power. You are proving your anti-semitism by accusing the Jews of abusing their power when they defend themselves. You are an anti-semite.
The Gazans are not defending themselves...they are the ones who started this war. They are the attackers, the terrorists. To claim they are defending themselves is a joke.
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By that logic every American is a liberal Democrat because Obama was elected.
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When push comes to shove, the U.S. is a liberal socialist country. Even when Republicans had control of all 3 branches of government a decade ago, they didn't dare even partially privatize Social Security.
All Gazans are terrorists. They all favor the destruction of Israel. Therefore, ironically, the only solution would be for Israel to unleash a "Final Solution" on the Gazans.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:25 pm to Duke
America will never wash its hands of Israel.
No way.
Both democratic and republican politicians would never sanction Israel for anything.
You have no understanding of the realities of American politics.
No way.
Both democratic and republican politicians would never sanction Israel for anything.
You have no understanding of the realities of American politics.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:02 pm to samson'sseed
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The U.S. will never stop giving Israel aid no matter what Israel does. Don't make me laugh. Americans and Europeans never spilled 1 oz of blood defending Israel.
I believe you have no understanding of what a game changer the extermination of a million people actually is. The world is not about to set a precedent that would allow a country to go about killing that many people in their land. The aid ends right there.
Also, I'm speaking of the backing of our military that Israel has. Attack Israel and they need help, you're fighting off the US military. Nobody wants to get us involved. That's the context of the support I'm talking about.
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You are proving your anti-semitism by accusing the Jews of abusing their power when they defend themselves. You are an anti-semite.
There it is.
I have at no point stated I had any ill will to the Jews. I said I have problems with the treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli Government. I've even gone so far as to call the rocket attacks an attempt to murder innocent civilians in Israel. One might call them Jews.
Israel can defend its self. I blame them for the apartheid state they run. The lack of freedom they grant the Palestinians that leave them stuck in poverty with no hope of anything better. The sort of actions that only add fuel to the fire. That's not antisemitism. That's simply me stating my issues with how Israel handles their business. Jumping to the antisemitism card is as bad as liberals who throw the race card out at anyone who disagrees with them.
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The Gazans are not defending themselves...they are the ones who started this war.
Here's the timetable.
We had almost no rockets flying from Gaza and those that did fire them were imprisoned.
Then three Israelis are kidnapped and murdered back in June in the West Bank. Hamas takes no responsibility and it's not how they handle prisoners. They like to swap them out for Hamas militants in jail. Israel blames Hamas anyway and arrests over 300 militants that were released in the deal that ended the 2012 conflict.
Then Israelis kill a Palestinian brutally in revenge. No arrests so far.
So Hamas at this point is pissed off and they act out violently. They reprehensibly start trying to kill Israelis with rockets.
Israel responds and this is where we are today.
Can you not see Israel's hand in the escalation along with the Palestinians? More so considering the context the complete shutdown of trade in Gaza. I do believe Israel was justified in striking back and are justified in trying to root out Hamas. They are terrorists and murders. I'm just critical of Israel's role in getting this far.
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All Gazans are terrorists. They all favor the destruction of Israel.
All of them huh?
This is how we get to justifying killing over a million people who are just trying to live their lives. Awesome.
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Both democratic and republican politicians would never sanction Israel for anything.
You don't think killing millions because they don't like them and some fire rockets wouldn't change the political calculus? It would be an outrageous murder of civilians that would and should anger any human being with a conscience. The aid ends right there. The sanctions being and military action is taken. As stated earlier, we're not going to allow that precedent to be set.
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You have no understanding of the realities of American politics.
You apparently have little understanding of the realities of politics in general.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:19 pm to Duke
How many people have been killed in north korea, yet everyone stands idle. Im not saying Gaza should be nuked by any means, but its always been quite easy for the worlds nations to look the other way.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:36 pm to Alahunter
The world letting NK happen is shameful. It's digusting. It's an out of sight, out of mind sort of thing. As sad as that is.
The Nigeria story too, outrageous but not in the public eye. It should be. We should be angry and demand better of people.
The bombing of millions to exterminate in front of all those cameras....that's a different ballgame all together.
The Nigeria story too, outrageous but not in the public eye. It should be. We should be angry and demand better of people.
The bombing of millions to exterminate in front of all those cameras....that's a different ballgame all together.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:38 pm to Duke
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There are over 1 million people in Gaza. You're calling to murder them to send radical Islam a message? What message is that? That Israel and the West are mass murders
What's the big deal? They kill one another to the tune of millions every decade.
Those savages have no regard for human life.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:41 pm to scrooster
So we have two who support the murder of millions. Good to know.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:53 pm to Duke
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The bombing of millions to exterminate in front of all those cameras....that's a different ballgame all together.
PR wise, it is different. Practically, it is no different.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:54 pm to Duke
Cameras find new shiny objects and people get bored with long running news stories. Just pointing out that history repeatedly turns a blind eye to atrocities that dont immediately affect them or cause a global delima. This is a crisis that wouldnt matter to most of the world if not for cameras, imo.
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