re: The Game: The GOP Field Is Practically Set

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He didn't finish college. End of discussion. Right or wrong, the field is too crowded. And when the field is crowded, people look for reasons to exclude you as a candidate than include you as a candidate.

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People want to dismiss Walker not having a degree, but I think that would be hung around his neck in a general election. The first slip-up he made would magnified because of that.

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When you put Jeb or Rubio up against Hilllary, their argument is "well, we're not Hillary." There's no positive argument there.

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If done right, I think Rubio could have a pretty effective campaign. He'd provide a great contrast to Hillary on many levels. Jeb, on the other hand, is just asking for trouble. Nothing would energize the Left more than nominating another Bush. It would just feed the narrative they want to push.

Losers like Jindal, Pataki, Huckabee, Cruz, Santorium, etc. need to hit the road. They don't stand a chance but they're just sucking up oxygen from others in this race. Having a field this big is probably going to lead to a nominee limping out of the primaries.

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I would like Rubio to win the nomination. He has the best chance against Hillary.

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Hilary would flush Rubio faster than a morning turd. The only guy who has a chance against HC is Bush. C–B II would be a competitive race.

Many are and will be smart enough to avoid it but there are points to be made from the desperate candidates. Somebody is going to make it an issue, even though the answer is obvious to avoid it.

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The people on the left think the GOP ticket is garbage. The people on the right think the Democrats running are garbage. The funny thing is, they're both right.

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I agree. I don't think Sanders is garbage, but I also don't think he's a great candidate. Same with Rubio.

Lets talk Carly - girl can handle it.
Dr. Carson - we can use good men like him.
Trump is a nut, but the electorate is ready for someone who will say what they think for a change. Ross Perot kinda thang

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i mean it doesn't matter because the Republicans don't have a real shot at the presidency. It's Hillary's race to lose.

If Sanders gets the democratic nomination he'll win the presidency too. The Republicans have become the party of right wing nut jobs, racists, and zealots, and their base is literally dying off.

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The thing is, I don't think the GOPs field is that bad but overall they have a lot more clunkers than not. The Dems have a shite field but it's because there's one presumptive nominee.

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The GOP field's literally better than it has been maybe since Reagan left office. For the first time in a long, long time you've got a bunch of contending candidates that are young, charismatic, and have the potential to appeal to non-typical GOP voters.

As you noted, the Democrats are the ones with that problem right now. They've got Hillary, and old hippie, and O'Malley. O'Malley's got the tools, but he might not be able to put together a national game in time.

Lets say that HRC is the Dem winner
Bush wins in a squeaker against Trump
Trump then goes Third Party
HRC wins in a romp
And I think she beats Bush one on one by 10% because the neo cons will stay home.

I have a better chance of stealing Beyonce from Jay-Z than your hypothetical, but let's play the HRC vs GOPer game.

Vs Bush: It's a tough battle between two similar candidates that really aren't very different that neither base is happy about. Hillary isn't super charismatic or anything, probably handing Bush the likeability. Neither base gets excited and Jeb probably pulls it out imho.

Rubio is the monster Hillary doesn't want to see. He's young, attractive, charasmatic, and will be able to attract moderates that would vote D by default against a more conservative candidate. With a decent immigration platform, it's President Rubio.

Kasich has appeal with the pragmatic (I'm don't think this is the correct word, but my limits in language make this the best approximation) moderates. As 808 noted, isn't exactly Edwin Edwards up there. Clinton has the machine and Kasich isn't going to wow people. Loses a closer total vote race than the EC shows.

Rand Paul sets up to be another challenge for HRC. He has ammo to attack her on the left and push her that way to appease the base. He'll get TP types in with his conservative dream fiscal policy (compared to Ron Paul's we dream). The pro-defense elements will end up for Hillary and that would be his downfall. Tepid religious right support will seal the deal.

Finally Walker. His lack of a college degree will be a club used to beat Walker repeatedly to undercut his credability. Will be playing from farther right than any of the above candidates, leaving a big swath of moderates for Hillary to swipe up. If he were to get the nomination, how far right will he have gone? Haven't seen much from him yet, but he's got some money lined up that tells me he might be a good politician.

Outside of this group, Hillary wins in landslides.

All of this in my very humble opinion.

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lol this is literally the worst GOP field I've ever seen.

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We're you not alive four years ago?