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re: Supreme Court has spoken: gay marriage is happening
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:12 am to 3nOut
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:12 am to 3nOut
Very well reasoned and articulated statements. I'm aware that you can't physically get married in TX, but it is pretty much de facto since they can just take a road trip to OK, come back home and it's recognized.
I see where Scalia is coming from, and somewhat agree with him, but it's not as though these types of rulings are entirely unprecedented.
I see where Scalia is coming from, and somewhat agree with him, but it's not as though these types of rulings are entirely unprecedented.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:12 am to 3nOut
Yeah I was gonna say they've probably been throwing a tantrum since November 2008.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:15 am to Masterag
Good. Let's hope weed is next.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:21 am to td01241
quote:Aren't you describing gay people, particularly the one who have been whining all these decasdes?
People who are so worried about other people and how they can destroy their happiness are scum.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:22 am to 3nOut
I personally give zero fricks whether the gays can get married or not, but this is a massive overreach by the SCOTUS. It's more of the "ends justify the means" judicial activism that we've come to expect. It seems that we don't really need states or a U.S. Congress. Now we're only electing a President so that he/she can appoint a new overlord every time a SC justice retires.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:25 am to Tantal
The ruling seems a natural extention of a lot of the marriage and privacy cases the court has heard over the past decades. The ruling strikes me as logical based on some of the precedent I've read over.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:26 am to Masterag
It's as simple as if government is going to recognize marriage, then it should recognize all marriage. My religious beliefs nor someone else's beliefs should dictate how the government defines marriage. And the reality is, if you truly are accepting of other's religious freedoms, there are some religions (Christian sects included) who believe that gay marriage is in fact valid in the eyes of God. It's not my business who those churches and temples decide to marry.
In a perfect world, government doesn't recognize marriage at all. But we don't live in that. In the meantime, this is how it should be.
In a perfect world, government doesn't recognize marriage at all. But we don't live in that. In the meantime, this is how it should be.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:40 am to Tantal
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It seems that we don't really need states or a U.S. Congress
This shouldn't have been a state issue to begin with.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:41 am to TeLeFaWx
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Let's hope weed is next
This is the only thing that will calm shite down
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:56 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:12 am to Roger Klarvin
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The politics board is throwing a tantrum today
Damn, you aren't lying.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:16 am to cardboardboxer
I'm pretty sure I read over there that someone hopes we become an Islamic state just for this to be denied.
For all the complaining over there about knee jerk reactions over the confederate flag, it's kind of funny reading the hypocrisy today.
For all the complaining over there about knee jerk reactions over the confederate flag, it's kind of funny reading the hypocrisy today.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:25 am to Tantal
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It seems that we don't really need states or a U.S. Congress
The reality of the modern era is that we don't.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:30 am to PrivatePublic
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The reality of the modern era is that we don't.
Bingo
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:41 am to 3nOut
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Scalia had his dissent, which i agree with completely.
I don't care which side of the issue anyone is on, Scalia is the biggest fricking hypocrite on the court. If he objects to the Supreme Court adjudicating the constitutionality of laws, he needs to resign right now and then write a very public mea culpa for all the times he's done exactly the same thing he's writing about there.
Scalia is only angry about this issue when the vote goes against him. He's a very smart man, but has the introspective powers of a mosquito.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:02 pm to randomways
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I don't care which side of the issue anyone is on, Scalia is the biggest fricking hypocrite on the court that doesn't agree with me
Fify
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:11 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The politics board is throwing a tantrum today
808 was having a hayday earlier. Is he still posting?
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:11 pm to 3nOut
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The actual ruling involving overriding state's rights and i don't like that part of it.
Not really. This is contract law.
If I make a contract with someone on California then it is enforceable in Texas. It says very clearly in the Constitution:
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No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No law imparing obligation of contacts. Marriage is a contract. This is not judicial activism, it is a slam dunk.
Anyone following this subject knew that as soon as some states had it legal this would happen. This is just events playing out.
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:15 pm to cardboardboxer
So my contract with my weed dealer in Colorado overrides Texas law?
fawx, I found your loophole.
fawx, I found your loophole.
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