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re: Supreme Court has spoken: gay marriage is happening

Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:12 am to
Very well reasoned and articulated statements. I'm aware that you can't physically get married in TX, but it is pretty much de facto since they can just take a road trip to OK, come back home and it's recognized.

I see where Scalia is coming from, and somewhat agree with him, but it's not as though these types of rulings are entirely unprecedented.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:12 am to
Yeah I was gonna say they've probably been throwing a tantrum since November 2008.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:15 am to
Good. Let's hope weed is next.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:18 am to
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:21 am to
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People who are so worried about other people and how they can destroy their happiness are scum.
Aren't you describing gay people, particularly the one who have been whining all these decasdes?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13971 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:22 am to
I personally give zero fricks whether the gays can get married or not, but this is a massive overreach by the SCOTUS. It's more of the "ends justify the means" judicial activism that we've come to expect. It seems that we don't really need states or a U.S. Congress. Now we're only electing a President so that he/she can appoint a new overlord every time a SC justice retires.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35619 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:25 am to
The ruling seems a natural extention of a lot of the marriage and privacy cases the court has heard over the past decades. The ruling strikes me as logical based on some of the precedent I've read over.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99028 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:26 am to
It's as simple as if government is going to recognize marriage, then it should recognize all marriage. My religious beliefs nor someone else's beliefs should dictate how the government defines marriage. And the reality is, if you truly are accepting of other's religious freedoms, there are some religions (Christian sects included) who believe that gay marriage is in fact valid in the eyes of God. It's not my business who those churches and temples decide to marry.

In a perfect world, government doesn't recognize marriage at all. But we don't live in that. In the meantime, this is how it should be.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:40 am to
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It seems that we don't really need states or a U.S. Congress

This shouldn't have been a state issue to begin with.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:41 am to
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Let's hope weed is next

This is the only thing that will calm shite down
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16971 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 10:56 am to
Google has went full on gay today.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/26/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:12 am to
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The politics board is throwing a tantrum today



Damn, you aren't lying.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99028 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:16 am to
I'm pretty sure I read over there that someone hopes we become an Islamic state just for this to be denied.

For all the complaining over there about knee jerk reactions over the confederate flag, it's kind of funny reading the hypocrisy today.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:25 am to
quote:

It seems that we don't really need states or a U.S. Congress


The reality of the modern era is that we don't.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:30 am to
quote:

The reality of the modern era is that we don't.

Bingo
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 11:41 am to
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Scalia had his dissent, which i agree with completely.


I don't care which side of the issue anyone is on, Scalia is the biggest fricking hypocrite on the court. If he objects to the Supreme Court adjudicating the constitutionality of laws, he needs to resign right now and then write a very public mea culpa for all the times he's done exactly the same thing he's writing about there.

Scalia is only angry about this issue when the vote goes against him. He's a very smart man, but has the introspective powers of a mosquito.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28894 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:02 pm to
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I don't care which side of the issue anyone is on, Scalia is the biggest fricking hypocrite on the court that doesn't agree with me


Fify
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28894 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

The politics board is throwing a tantrum today


808 was having a hayday earlier. Is he still posting?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:11 pm to
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The actual ruling involving overriding state's rights and i don't like that part of it.


Not really. This is contract law.

If I make a contract with someone on California then it is enforceable in Texas. It says very clearly in the Constitution:

quote:

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.


No law imparing obligation of contacts. Marriage is a contract. This is not judicial activism, it is a slam dunk.

Anyone following this subject knew that as soon as some states had it legal this would happen. This is just events playing out.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28894 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 12:15 pm to
So my contract with my weed dealer in Colorado overrides Texas law?




fawx, I found your loophole.
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