Supreme Court has spoken: gay marriage is happening

I don't think Mexicans care

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If at first, you don't secede...

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Lol. Over this? Shoulda been legal all along, and government should not be in the marriage business.

I don't care one way or the other but it sure seems like this is a state's rights issue and not something for the SCOTUS.

They're all extreme right wingers, I'm shocked.

i think that the "gay marriage allowed in all 50 states is a bit misleading"

it says that every state has to recognize marriages from other states. that doesn't mean gay marriages will immediately begin taking place in TX, LA, etc. but if i'm legally married in NYC and move to Texas, it's a legal biding marriage that TX has to recognize

My takeaways:

1. good. i'm no opponent of gay marriage. i disagree with the lifestyle, but it's not my job (or the government's) to legislate morality... to a degree.

2. The idea of Indiana's pizza parlour problem will become more of an issue, because we just overrode multiple (but a minority of) state laws. They just forced the obvious most conservative states to have an issue front and center.

Scalia had his dissent, which i agree with completely.

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The substance of today’s decree is not of immense personal importance to me. The law can recognize as marriage whatever sexual attachments and living arrangements it wishes, and can accord them favorable civil consequences, from tax treatment to rights of inheritance.

Those civil consequences—and the public approval that conferring the name of marriage evidences—can perhaps have adverse social effects, but no more adverse than the effects of many other controversial laws. So it is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. The opinion in these cases is the furthest extension in fact and the furthest extension one can even imagine—of the Court’s claimed power to create “liberties” that the Constitution and its Amendments neglect to mention. This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves.

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now a lot of people will say "sore loser" when Scalia wasn't saying he was against gay marriage. he was against the constitutionality of letting another state's right override YOUR state's right.

Case in point. if on the ballot today was a vote to legalize gay marriage in Texas and a vote to protect businesses from being sueable for not serving a gay marriage, i'd vote yes to both of them in a heartbeat. i want to recognize that A) gays getting married doesn't need to be an issue today and B) we need to preserve the right of free speech whether it's a state or individual

3. The actual ruling involving overriding state's rights and i don't like that part of it. I don't think it's coming immediately, but there's a lot of arguments to be made of saying i'm a Louisianan in NYC and my LA gun rights take precedence over NY's.

4. Outside of our idiot social conservatives, this helps the republicans in the race next year. If the likes of Paul, Walker, Rubio, and Cruz can not have this as a social stigma like Romney did last go round, it's one less thing to ping them on.

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On social media, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton merely tweeted the word "proud" and the White House changed its Twitter avatar into the rainbow colours.

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Lols on two people that declared gay marriage a bad thing 5 years ago.

I just looked at the Political board. I can not unread what I just read lol.

The extremes in this are hilarious, states rights gone, hell coming, etc etc.

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Overriding states rights in defense of individual rights. I've got no problem with that.

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neither do i.

but the first time a CHL carrier is arrested in NYC, i don't think people will like that very much on either side.

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The politics board is throwing a tantrum today

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Today? They've been throwing a tantrum since I first started visiting it, though it has escalated this week with the Confederate flag stuff, the Obamacare ruling, and now the gay marriage ruling.


What a great week for America.