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re: So I got my letter from Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Al today for 2016

Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:13 pm to
Obama voter. Deal with it.


Seriously though, the solution is so simple. Why we don't just move to a single payer system is beyond me.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:13 pm to
Somebody throw a brick at them motherfrickers
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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69908 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:14 pm to
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eriously though, the solution is so simple. Why we don't just move to a single payer system is beyond me.





This was the agenda all along. frick you
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:18 pm to
Sorry, bro. I feel your pain.

Obamacare is wealth redistribution, nothing more. It doesn't work if you don't pay more.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:32 pm to
Yep the company I work is shopping for new Ins because BCBS has told them to be prepared for a significant increase. frick you Obama.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119174 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:34 pm to
My company was with Anthem for years using a HDHP. We switched to self funded last year after Anthem told us the rates were going up almost 50%.
Our rates did still go up about 18%, but I'm told for next year, we might see a small decrease in premium costs.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:39 pm to
I don't know what going to happen with us, all I know is I'm taking the cheapest plan they offer and will continue to my doctors that I trust and just pay out of pocket, frick having to change docs because the insurance company wants me to use their uneducated pos docs.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18054 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:39 pm to
Upvoted because insurance melts are the most genuine and I can relate.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111524 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

so simple. Why we don't just move to a single payer system is beyond me.


So single payer controls costs and maintains care?
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:52 pm to
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Alahunter


Another big green arrow for you.

Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 10:05 pm to
Obama care is the main reason I sold my businesses ... it's a small business crippler in industries where you are competing against big business chains.

Small business (50-1500 employees) is being driven out of business in this country. Big business wants it all ... Obama has helped to contribute to this more than any POTUS in history. It's not even close and his two biggest weapons of choice are Obamacare and the EPA.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17462 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:43 pm to
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Seriously though, the solution is so simple. Why we don't just move to a single payer system is beyond me.


Have you ever really looked at a "single payer system"....let me just tell you that it sucks and the 1% pay for their own healthcare because it doesn't impact them.

I had better coverage under the old system and paid $425 a month. The day Obamacare went into effect, my plan went to shite and now I pay close to $900 a month. It is a tax plain and simple.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:09 am to
A hurricane hasn't hit Florida in years... Rates have gone up anywho. Charles would be proud of the insurance industry, unfortunately I mean Charles Ponzi.
As to the health insurance aspect... My step mom was blessed with brain cancer 20 months ago. Rates out the roof, dropped twice. Obamacare was about as awesome as the glioblastoma that killed her 2 weeks ago.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7373 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:55 am to
Single payer is the only way
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70911 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 6:46 am to
Property rates are not determined on a state level like most people think. Unless your company is regionalized to only the state of Florida, which I highly doubt, considering that's not the best state to be in.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99044 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 6:56 am to
Our premiums went up last year, but nothing changed for this year's open enrollment. I expected changes last year since we switched carriers from Humana to Anthem. The premiums and prescription costs went up some, but wasn't as big as the jump we had about 6 years ago (premiums damn near doubled).

My biggest issue was the change of the classification of my OB/GYN to specialist (apparently Humana and Anthem looks at them differently) so my copay there went from $25 to $45.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:52 am to
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So single payer controls costs and maintains care?



No, but it prevents health care expenses from financially crippling everyday Americans, something that was happening before Obamacare and after Obamacare.

There is no perfect system. I actually think there should just be single payer for major medical expenses - hospitalizations, surgeries, cancer treatment, etc., while private insurance handles dental, vision, routine medical care, etc. Or vice versa.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:09 am to
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Seriously though, the solution is so simple. Why we don't just move to a single payer system is beyond me.


Because most of us would rather not have VA level healthcare, which is EXACTLY what a single payer system will get you.

Oh, and the skyrocketing costs you'd see would make these insurance increases seem like the good times.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:13 am to
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Because most of us would rather not have VA level healthcare, which is EXACTLY what a single payer system will get you.



Or Medicare, which has very favorable reviews from its users.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8179 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 8:16 am to
Thanks a lot, Obama.
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