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re: Shooting in Garland, Tx at Muhammad Art exhibit
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:28 am to wadewilson
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:28 am to wadewilson
Why do you think that?
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:30 am to the808bass
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Lawd. You intimated clearly that understanding their ideas on the "doodles" was important. Then when faced with your own hypocrisy, you pretend that you don't care at all what they believe.
It's important to understand their ideas on the doodles if you don't want to get shot. That doesn't mean I care about what they believe.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:34 am to Stonehog
What you said:
Not comparable to what happened in Garland. Now, it would be comparable if the art show were held in a mosque, or if your hypothetical was a woman wearing said shirt in a public place and being raped.
If I say something critical of Mohammed in a public place, I should not expect to be brutally murdered. We live in a nation of laws and rights, one of which is free speech. Yes, you can sometimes expect negative consequences for exercising your 1st Amendment rights, but murder is, in fact, illegal in this country.
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Everyone knows that Muslims kill over drawings of Mohammed.
That would be like a woman going to a Rape-aholics Anonymous meeting with a T-shirt that says "Rape me," and then questioning why she got raped for what she was wearing.
Not comparable to what happened in Garland. Now, it would be comparable if the art show were held in a mosque, or if your hypothetical was a woman wearing said shirt in a public place and being raped.
If I say something critical of Mohammed in a public place, I should not expect to be brutally murdered. We live in a nation of laws and rights, one of which is free speech. Yes, you can sometimes expect negative consequences for exercising your 1st Amendment rights, but murder is, in fact, illegal in this country.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:36 am to Stonehog
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It's important to understand their ideas on the doodles if you don't want to get shot.
No, it's important for them to understand that they cannot murder people who disagree with them if they live in a non-shitty country.
It is not, never has been, and never will be my responsibility to not offend muslims. It is, always has been, and always will be their responsibility to grow the frick up and deal with it like civilized people do. If they want to keep their own countries in a medieval state of shite, that's their call, but not in this country.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:36 am to wadewilson
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If I say something critical of Mohammed in a public place, I should not expect to be brutally murdered.
Do you have that expectation now?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:37 am to Stonehog
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Do you have that expectation now?
Yes, I'm an American. Also, I shoot back.
The best artwork there were the chalk outlines.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:39 am to wadewilson
So right now, if you say something critical of Mohammed in public you think you'll be brutally murdered?
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:41 am to Stonehog
I misread.
No, I do not have that expectation.
No, I do not have that expectation.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:51 am to the808bass
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the808bass
Here's an olive branch.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 9:56 am to wadewilson
Read the Bill of Rights. If you don't agree with them you should gtfo.
The reason IsIs or the Black Panthers will not win the war is that there are too many redneck deer hunters in the USA. Don't belive me? Let the shite start.
The reason IsIs or the Black Panthers will not win the war is that there are too many redneck deer hunters in the USA. Don't belive me? Let the shite start.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:17 am to Stonehog
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Everyone knows that Muslims kill over drawings of Mohammed.
That would be like a woman going to a Rape-aholics Anonymous meeting with a T-shirt that says "Rape me," and then questioning why she got raped for what she was wearing.
Wow
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:21 am to Stonehog
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Everyone knows that Muslims kill over drawings of Mohammed.
That would be like a woman going to a Rape-aholics Anonymous meeting with a T-shirt that says "Rape me," and then questioning why she got raped for what she was wearing.
I am truly flabbergasted right now.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
At this point Stonehog is best read as simply performance art. He is a satire of a satire of a satire of a cliched leftist.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:24 pm to wadewilson
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We live in a nation of laws and rights, one of which is free speech.
Exactly. We tolerate some morbid shite in this country. From the filthy "art" of Robert Mapplethorpe to the obscene "speech" of the Westboro Baptist Church.
What keeps us from obliterating shitheads like them is our respect for the Constitution and its guarantee of their, and our, right to be obnoxious. It's difficult to process sometimes but we have sent millions of soldiers to their deaths in defense of that right.
We expect, no, we demand that the right to free speech is fundamental. It is not reasonable that a religion expects everyone, even those who do not follow its doctrines, to yield this right. We never have and we won't now.
Islam's followers must respect this fundamental right of Americans and other nationalities who accept it. They can insist on adherence to their religious law that an image of Muhammad is blasphemy for their congregations but that's the boundary. If they cross that boundary they will meet resistance. That should be glaringly obvious to them by now.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:43 pm to Kentucker
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Islam's followers must respect this fundamental right of Americans and other nationalities who accept it. They can insist on adherence to their religious law that an image of Muhammad is blasphemy for their congregations but that's the boundary. If they cross that boundary they will meet resistance. That should be glaringly obvious to them by now
Exactly. We admire and respect ones choosing for their religion of choice--like it or not. But adamant, stubborn or not, despite what their faith preaches, religious law doesn't trump the constitution. They can whine like fricking spoiled babies about the "art show" all they want but crossing that line to resort to extreme violence is, was going to be met with a conclusion we are reading about today.
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